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re: Is the SEC wrong in restricting graduate transfers inside the conference?
Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:45 pm to AUTiger45
Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:45 pm to AUTiger45
quote:You sure about that? Auburn has had a veritable coaching carousel and damn near a dozen DC's since Tubs was canned. Are you sure you want to give players freedom to transfer unimpeded when a HC or position coach changes?
graduation and coaching changes, either HC or their specific position, should allow them to transfer with no penalty IMHO.
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:56 pm to Crimson Legend
I think its more complicated than just blocking/allowing transfers. If the player does not participate in spring ball. And makes it known at the end of the season that he is leaving after he graduates, he should be allowed to transfer anywhere. However, if he needs that football scholly for one more semester, and participates in football activities right up until graduation, make his arse sit out a year.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:56 pm to RT1941
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You sure about that?
yeah, that sounds like a bad idea. We might as well just have a player draft every year
Posted on 8/10/16 at 11:58 am to AshLSU
So if fournette graduates and wants to come to alabama to win a championship, you would have no problem with it?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:00 pm to KiffinsVisor
I'm curious, since 100% of the bama fans here are backing their god, what they seriously think would happen if Saban "defied" the SEC rule & let Smith transfer to UGA? Do you reallly think Saban or bama would face any sanctions? Saban's all about his players & is in/famous for giving them second chances. Unless he feels something mite hurt the team. Then it's all about the rules & regulations.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:08 pm to Keltic Tiger
Yeah Saban should just give in and let him go with all the pissing, crying and moaning.
The dem\ liberal way to get stuff done is to piss, complain, moan, whine, cry, riot oh I'm sorry I meant to put "protest" instead of riot but yeah saban should let him go since him and his mom are crying.
The dem\ liberal way to get stuff done is to piss, complain, moan, whine, cry, riot oh I'm sorry I meant to put "protest" instead of riot but yeah saban should let him go since him and his mom are crying.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:19 pm to Crimson Legend
No. Allowing schools to recruit graduate transfer players developed at other conference schools would be complete mayhem.
It would give kids way too much leverage against the coaches and schools that have invested heavily into them in terms of time, money, resources and coaching.
Half the conference would turn into a farm system for the other half.
It would give kids way too much leverage against the coaches and schools that have invested heavily into them in terms of time, money, resources and coaching.
Half the conference would turn into a farm system for the other half.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:31 pm to Crimson Legend
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The NCAA does not restrict it, but the SEC does. Should that rule be changed? Should a player be able to transfer inside the SEC and play immediately?
I think the coaches should vote and go with the majority. Vote on it every 5 years.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:31 pm to Crimson Legend
If players can't, coaches shouldn't be able to either
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:39 pm to Number 31
But what if they piss and moan about it?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:51 pm to TrueReb13
quote:Current SEC rules prohibit players from transferring without sitting a year. If the rule needs to be amended then each school will vote to make the change. Perhaps Bjork will drive this message home and petition the conference next summer?
If players can't,
quote:Then put a no-compete clause in the coaches contract, that's an easy fix that can be handled at the school level.
coaches shouldn't be able to either
Posted on 8/10/16 at 2:41 pm to Crimson Legend
Same thing as the NCAA clearing a high school graduate to play, but the SEC somehow will override it and won't qualify them.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 5:59 pm to Crimson Legend
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Alabama HC Nick Saban addressed the Maurice Smith transfer today, saying it's in the SEC's hands now:
Posted on 8/10/16 at 6:42 pm to RT1941
to clarify, if it isnt the position coach they signed with then yes I absolutely believe they should be given that opportunity. has nothing to do with AU or Bama or anyone else. why are you trying to turn it into that?
Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:42 am to Keltic Tiger
You dodged the question. Would LSU and the fans be willing to let fournette transfer to Alabama his senior year if he wanted to win a championship... After he graduated?
The answer is simply no, so stop making a big deal about Coach Saban not wanting it done either.
The answer is simply no, so stop making a big deal about Coach Saban not wanting it done either.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:47 am to Crimson Legend
I think the rule makes sense, but only with a hardship exception. Is the SEC the only conference with this type rule?
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:12 am to Crimson Legend
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If coaches can do it...
I've never bought this argument. I heard McElroy, who gets on my nerves say it yesterday. Well, coaches get to leave.
Well yes, coaches are not players. Coaches are being paid as employees of schools. The are in positions of authority that they have earned. As a player you are a subordinate of the coach, not an equal.
Now you can make the argument that if another CONFERENCE does it...but the whole coaches and players being treated the same and should abide by the same rules is a stupid argument. THis is another attitude millenials have. That authority doesn't have to be respected anymore and whatever Johnny gets to do I should get to do. Hell, players are bringing lawsuits on coaches now for yelling at them.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:51 am to TouchdownTony
Coaches being able to switch schools is completely irrelevant.
I think there are some strong arguments on the "poaching" aspect. For those who are concerned about poaching players, does the fact that the player has completed his undergraduate degree matter to you? This doesn't open up the whole roster to poaching, only those who have graduated.
And since most of the elite players are not there long enough to graduate early (not all, but certainly most), it seems the impact would be rather limited, doesn't it?
I think there are some strong arguments on the "poaching" aspect. For those who are concerned about poaching players, does the fact that the player has completed his undergraduate degree matter to you? This doesn't open up the whole roster to poaching, only those who have graduated.
And since most of the elite players are not there long enough to graduate early (not all, but certainly most), it seems the impact would be rather limited, doesn't it?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:52 am to Crimson Legend
I don't really care. I do think they should be the same, though.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:54 am to KiffinsVisor
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If not, college football becomes free agency after graduation
The number of athletes who graduate with eligibility left and are not leaving for the league and are looking to transfer is very small.
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