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re: Is the SEC wrong in restricting graduate transfers inside the conference?
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:00 am to elit4ce05
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:00 am to elit4ce05
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Nobody can stop him from transfering to any school he wants to continue his schooling. He just has to sit a year to play a sport in the same conference.
Which is Completely asinine. You should be rewarded for graduating, not be under the same restriction as a true freshman transferring elsewhere. Hell, some of these guys could complete a graduate degree before they even play football if they are forced to sit out.
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:01 am to StopRobot
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Why did the SEC put this rule in place?
To make sure coaches have as much control as possible.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:02 am to Crimson Legend
You can't just start letting players follow asst. coaches to other SEC schools.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:05 am to BranchDawg
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It's free agency regardless. It's just a matter of allowing those free agents to actually do what THEY want to do.
No. No, it is not.
Graduate Transfer Are Not Free Agency
"Like all other transfers, graduate transfers need permission to contact another institution. If a coach denies permission to contact and it is upheld on appeal, the athlete cannot accept an athletic scholarship at a potential transfer destination."
LINK
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:07 am to rtr1986
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You can't just start letting players follow asst. coaches to other SEC schools.
If they've graduated, and that asst. coach was who they were coached by their whole career, why not?
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:07 am to StopRobot
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Why did the SEC put this rule in place?
Are you legit asking or....
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:08 am to ALA2262
I think most people are arguing that it should be free agency.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:10 am to StopRobot
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Why did the SEC put this rule in place?
Again as I understand it, there is no specific rule towards grads, its transfers in general. That rule was put in place to keep the student athletes from really doing transfers year after year and not being committed to a school.
However there really should be some consideration for a distinction between a grad and non grad going forward. The grad has committed to a school by going all the way and graduating. There arent enough years left to transfer to multiple schools at that point.
I think Saban did what was correct for him. is he a "bad guy" yes and no, but he played within the rules, which is acceptable. But had this been a 4th or 5th string guy, there would have probably been no restrictions put in place.
Saban used it as a pressure point to try to keep him, the player in this case made the decision knowing what was more than likely to come. Now he is a bit bitter and trying to get the media to aid him
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:12 am to NYCAuburn
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But had this been a 4th or 5th string guy, there would have probably been no restrictions put in place.
Bingo
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Saban used it as a pressure point to try to keep him, the player in this case made the decision knowing what was more than likely to come. Now he is a bit bitter and trying to get the media to aid him
I don't knock MO at all for this
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:14 am to AU_251
It is a terrible rule, period.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:29 am to AU_251
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I don't knock MO at all for this
I do, he knew the cards he was dealt when he played his hand, now he is trying to pull a maurice clarett
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:32 am to NYCAuburn
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now he is trying to pull a maurice clarett
just channeling his inner MO
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:34 am to Crimson Legend
Yes
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:35 am to Crimson Legend
I'm not going to research it, but I'm guessing the SEC had the rule before the NCAA. Just as they had scholarship limitations (The 140 Rule) before the NCAA instituted them. Why else would they have a separate rule?
Probably the only difference is that the NCAA waives the residency requirement for grad transfers and the SEC does not. Black knew this and has met the residency requirement and is eligible to play this year.
Probably the only difference is that the NCAA waives the residency requirement for grad transfers and the SEC does not. Black knew this and has met the residency requirement and is eligible to play this year.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 11:06 am
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:35 am to AU_251
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I don't knock MO at all for this
Shocking
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:36 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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I...still feel it is fair to require the play to play outside the conference or sit out a year.
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That's only because of Saban and Maurice Smith. If it were a player at another school that you had no allegiance to, you would be for it.
What if it were Les Miles trying to prevent Leonard Fournette from jumping ship to Bama for his final year of eligibility? I realize that Fournette will go pro early but the point still stands. It's a slippery slope when you start allowing players to transfer to a rival without any type of deterrence.
Saban, in his infinite wisdom, is once again able to see the big picture and make an unpopular call for the greater good of everybody.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:37 am to thunderbird1100
If an institution is willing to guarantee the player's scholarship for 4 years plus any graduate years with remaining eligibility, then I think it is ok to allow the institution the ability to block a transfer, even a graduate transfer.
But for most SEC schools, as I understand it, the school can "process" the player, removing their scholarship whenever they want. But the player cannot leave whenever they want without sitting out a year. Needs fixed I think.
But for most SEC schools, as I understand it, the school can "process" the player, removing their scholarship whenever they want. But the player cannot leave whenever they want without sitting out a year. Needs fixed I think.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:39 am to PurpleandGeauld
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f an institution is willing to guarantee the player's scholarship for 4 years plus any graduate years with remaining eligibility
But they cant. They can tell them that all the way but the only guarantee is a year to year scholarship being renewed. that's literally the only "guarantee". When they're recruiting them they can promise them everything, but it's not guaranteed.
When a player graduates he certainly shouldnt have to sit out a year if he wants to transfer, he's put in his time so let him go where he wants and be eligible immediately. Like I said, many of those guys could get a graduate degree even before ever playing a down at their new school if they are forced to sit out. That really makes no sense.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 10:41 am
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:40 am to NYCAuburn
I think it could be taken advantage of if its allowed. It opens the door for the shady teams (ole miss/Aub) to grab a Lsu/Bama 3rd string qb and promise them some playing time/money to come over and bring they're playbook and knowledge of the offense( signals) right before the season starts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:43 am to matsuflex
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shady teams (ole miss/Aub)
and there it is
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