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re: Is the SEC finally balanced?

Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by Big Kat
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:38 pm to
I'll decode - #1 player in the nation in total offense was Johnny Manziel
Posted by The Nino
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:40 pm to
that I understand
Posted by Big Kat
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:43 pm to


Good luck with Malzahn this year. I'm curious to see how fast a turnaround he can pull
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:54 pm to
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When your state holds the title for 3,000 and something days,
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 6:01 pm to
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So please, calling out names of offensive and defensive coaches mean nothing in the off season when neither combination has yet to win anything.
As long as Bama keeps dodging Florida and Georgia during the regular season, they will keep winning the SEC West. I just don't believe the rest of the division will allow anymore perfectly designed bridge schedules like the last couple of years. The people at the SEC league office have got to be on notice--no more contrived schedules for Bama.

Last year Bama got Missouri and Tennessee while TAM got Florida at Florida and Bama at Bama, and LSU got South Carolina and Florida.

This contrived scheduling is the only reason Bama won the West last year.

This year, LSU gets Georgia and Florida while Bama and TAM both get SEC doormats from the SEC East.

A lot of the advantages Bama has benefited from over the past couple of years are going away: Cream puff schedules, experienced QB, dominating OL, poor offenses at LSU, lack of talent at Florida, lack of a defense at Georgia.

We already know how tough TAM was, and their recruiting is now challenging Texas for the lion's share of the Lone Star State’s blue-chip talent.


Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 6:08 pm to
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No. I'm correct. I realize this is the SEC rant, but this whole site was started as an LSU site.


Only a fool is compelled to state the obvious.

Go back to Tiger Rant if you don't like what you see on the SEC Rant.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 6:09 pm to
I don't normally stick up for anything related to Bama but part of the issue is how terrible Tennessee has become these days. Once upon a time that used to be an extremely tough crossover game. It's locked in to place however and they can't help that the Vols have fallen on very hard times recently while Florida has been rolling again as LSU's permanent crossover game.
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 6:23 pm to
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the issue is how terrible Tennessee has become these days. Once upon a time that used to be an extremely tough crossover game. It's locked in to place


Once upon a time, the SEC wasn't the dominate football conference either.

Keeping the permanent cross-divisional game is not set in stone, but as long as it is kept, the rest of the SEC teams get to play Florida and LSU less often. I get it, and so do you.
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 6:25 pm
Posted by BIG DADDY 73
Roanoke, AL.
Member since Dec 2012
903 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 6:33 pm to
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last couple of years


Last year not last couple, and this year ATM's schedule is about like ours. Again 10er C was good when the permanent cross division rival thing was set up. The REC doesn't have a crystal ball to tell they were gonna go in the toilet.

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This contrived scheduling is the only reason Bama won the West last year.


BAMA won the west last year because LSU couldn't beat us and UF, and yall couldn't beat LSU and UF. So with only 1 loss we win the west and the rest is history/Dynasty.
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 6:55 pm to
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BAMA won the west last year because LSU couldn't beat us and UF, and yall couldn't beat LSU and UF.


Thanks to the SEC designed bridge schedules, Bama misses Florida and Georgia both last year and this year during the regular season.

That is why Bama won the West last year, and is now a co-favorite to win the SEC West this year.

LSU is scheduled out of the title contention due to having both Florida and Georgia on their SEC bridge schedule this year. A killer schedule Bama will never have to worry about.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:01 pm to
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In order SECE: UGA, UF, USC, Vandy,
'

haha, you don't really believe that do you?

Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:10 pm to
The SEC is amazingly balanced heading into the next 3 or 4 years.

Florida and Georgia look to have improved their coaching staffs and should recruit better due to that.

In the West, LSU looks to replace their amateurish looking offense with a Cam Cameron directed offense, and TAM will continue to recruit as well as Bama and LSU going forward.

Saban will always keep Bama a perennial power, but the going is about to get a lot harder than the past few years have been.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25578 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:16 pm to
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As long as Bama keeps dodging Florida and Georgia during the regular season, they will keep winning the SEC West. I just don't believe the rest of the division will allow anymore perfectly designed bridge schedules like the last couple of years. The people at the SEC league office have got to be on notice--no more contrived schedules for Bama.

Last year Bama got Missouri and Tennessee while TAM got Florida at Florida and Bama at Bama, and LSU got South Carolina and Florida.

This contrived scheduling is the only reason Bama won the West last year.

This year, LSU gets Georgia and Florida while Bama and TAM both get SEC doormats from the SEC East.

A lot of the advantages Bama has benefited from over the past couple of years are going away: Cream puff schedules, experienced QB, dominating OL, poor offenses at LSU, lack of talent at Florida, lack of a defense at Georgia.

We already know how tough TAM was, and their recruiting is now challenging Texas for the lion's share of the Lone Star State’s blue-chip talent.


Leave it to a Buckeye to not understand how round robin scheduling works.

Bama played UGA in '07 (lost) and '08 (won).
Then... the East rotates through one more time before UGA comes back up.

Besides... the only important game on the season is when the #1 in the West plays the #1 in the East. That is our 9th game right now. After 56 conference games, it is only the 57th that matters.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:26 pm to
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It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but had Bama been ineligible for postseason in 2012 (unfortunately they weren't!), LSU would have represented the West in Atlanta.


That would also be the case if neither A&M or LSU had lost to Florida giving A&M, Bama an LSU identical 7-1 record. Head to head doesn't always mean higher standing... The only thing to judge that is overall conference record. They each were 6-2, therefor tied. Looking at overall record, A&M defeated their bowl opponent. LSU didn't an finished out of the top ten. Sad but true that LSU upset the Aggies at Kyle Field. The better team doesn't always win, something Les Miles constantly proves.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25578 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:28 pm to
You are correct.

But you're reaching. LOL
Posted by stronghouse
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
908 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:28 pm to
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As long as Bama keeps dodging Florida and Georgia during the regular season, they will keep winning the SEC West. I just don't believe the rest of the division will allow anymore perfectly designed bridge schedules like the last couple of years. The people at the SEC league office have got to be on notice--no more contrived schedules for Bama.

Last year Bama got Missouri and Tennessee while TAM got Florida at Florida and Bama at Bama, and LSU got South Carolina and Florida.

This contrived scheduling is the only reason Bama won the West last year.

This year, LSU gets Georgia and Florida while Bama and TAM both get SEC doormats from the SEC East.

A lot of the advantages Bama has benefited from over the past couple of years are going away: Cream puff schedules, experienced QB, dominating OL, poor offenses at LSU, lack of talent at Florida, lack of a defense at Georgia.

We already know how tough TAM was, and their recruiting is now challenging Texas for the lion's share of the Lone Star State’s blue-chip talent.


See here is where we separate fact and fiction. Alabama has been in championship contention since 2008 and they have played both Georgia and Florida in a regular season game during that span.

Alabama did not have a dominating OL in 2009 or 2011 when they won a championship.

Alabama had an inexperienced QB's in 2009 and 2011 then they won a championship.

LSU offense played very good offense against Alabama last year and Alabama still won that game in BR.

Florida did not have a lack of talent when Alabama defeated them 2009 in the SEC championship game.

Georgia had a good defense last year when Alabama defeated them in the 2012 SEC championship game.

Alabama doesn't make the schedule and I'm sure you cannot find an article or any fact based document to support that they do.
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:01 pm to
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Leave it to a Buckeye to not understand how round robin scheduling works.


The 2012 and 2013 schedules are considered a “bridge” schedule and not based on any other previous or future scheduling formats.

During these bridge schedules, Bama gets nothing but cupcakes as their cross-divisional opponents, and LSU gets nothing but the co-favorites from the SEC East--both in 2012 and 2013.

How does that happen?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25578 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:04 pm to
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How does that happen?


Instead of Alabama playing Kentucky in 2012, they played Missouri.

Is that what you are moaning about?
How dare Alabama avoid Kentucky in 2012?

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:07 pm to
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I guess he didn't run an offense that day.

That's right, no coincidence there.
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Makes this even more impressive,,,

Makes this par for the course:

24-19



Good luck "running an offense" in Tiger Stadium this season.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:11 pm to
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Thanks to the SEC designed bridge schedules, Bama misses Florida and Georgia both last year and this year during the regular season.

To be fair, Bama played UGA last year - and beat them.


Barely.
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