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re: Is Texas A&M a perennial top 10 team?

Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:16 pm to
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A&M has finished in the top 10 a total of 12 times out of 78 years the AP poll has existed.


Lol. So being a small all-male military academy for over half that time doesn't change the dynamic? Not at all?
Posted by Rebellious
Member since Dec 2013
198 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:16 pm to
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If South Carolina can do it, Texas A&M can do it


South Carolina has benefited enormously from the decline of the SEC East. I am not sure that situation is going to last much longer either.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:17 pm to
And what happened in 1960 is totally the same scenario in what's happening right now
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:17 pm to
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South Carolina has benefited enormously from the decline of the SEC East. I am not sure that situation is going to last much longer either.


And A&M has tremendous built in advantages South Carolina will NEVER come close to having.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:18 pm to
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South Carolina has benefited enormously from the decline of the SEC East


This is very true. Florida and Georgia being down helps them a ton as well as having KY and Vandy in the mix. The west won't have this issue any time in the near future.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24906 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

A&M has finished in the top 10 a total of 12 times out of 78 years the AP poll has existed.


quote:

Lol. So being a small all-male military academy for over half that time doesn't change the dynamic? Not at all?


Well it's even worse lately.

A&M's top 10 finish in 2012 was the first since 1994.

So that is once in the last 18 years.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:18 pm to
A&M may get there in a couple years, but to say right now they are a perennial top 10 is not true. There aren't very many perennial top 10 teams.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:19 pm to
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If strong has a good season at UT, then aTm will take a big hit.



Maybe so maybe not. Most of the 2015 class in Texas will commit before the next season. They have no recruiting momentum, so we are leading for most of the talent.

It is far more important we win then they lose, as its harder to flip guys than keep them.

With that said, I [bias alert] don't think Charlie Strong is going to do what the great Saban couldn't- stop Big 12 offenses every week[/bias alert].
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:20 pm to
Well we be top 10 next year? Probably not. Going forward? As good of a chance as anyone else
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2940 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:22 pm to
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Going forward, we will have as good of a chance as anyone in the west


aTm will compete each year for a spot in the top 10. Before I would ever say yes, I need to see them stop the run and be able to pound the ball consistently against the LSU, Bama, Auburn and everyone else in the SEC.
They are setting their selves up to be in that position though.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:23 pm to
no can't be a top 10 team if they are the flagships bitch
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145136 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:23 pm to
Hbt pls
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:24 pm to
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There's no faster way to effectively say "I know very little about sports" than to say something like this


I see what your saying but the guy is one of the best ever. Look at the other recent great QB's. Cam, Tebow, Winston to name a few. They all have something in common. A&M was not a good team IMO they just happen to have one stud that won several games single handedly. Once said stud is gone, it will be interesting to see if Sumlin is worth all that cash.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24906 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:26 pm to
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There aren't very many perennial top 10 teams.


Truth. Very few. Even the ones that sometimes reach that height, usually fall back to earth and wouldn't be considered perennial top 10 anymore.

I guess it depends on what you mean by "perennial."

Are you basically just asking who the top 10 teams will be over the next few years? That's kind of a different question.

But there aren't 10 teams that are "perennially" in the top 10.

Alabama has 6 top 10s in a row. I don't think perennial means every year like that, but I would think probably averaging 2 out of every 3 years for a period of time or something along those lines would fit the definition.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:28 pm to
If A&M was still in the Big 12 id agree. Hell theyd be in the playoff every year. I don't even see them going 2-4 against AU,UA,OM,and LSU for the next few years. Gonna take more than 2 recruiting classes to fix that D.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145136 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:30 pm to
I think most people are going to be surprised by how good well be in 2015
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:35 pm to
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I think most people are going to be surprised by how good well be in 2015


I think you guys will be more competitive in 15 than next year. The west is going to be extremely tough in the following years even with the loses at QB at various schools. I think next year will be a tough one for A&M though.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:36 pm to
If they can maintain stability and elite talent along the offensive line like they have the past two seasons, they should be a power for the foreseeable future.

Sumlin is a good coach whose system, when the QB is amply protected, is deadly.

Take a look at their OL recruiting the past three cycles and their commitments for the 2015 class and it's easy to see that Sumlin may be building something special in College Station.

A&M OL recruiting
2015 - 1 four-star OL
2014 - 3 four-star OL, 1 3-star OL
2013 - 1 four-star OL, 3 3-star OL
2012 - 1 four-star OL, 2 3-star OL
Totals - 6 four-star OL, 6 three-star OL

That's quality depth and talent, IMO.
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