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re: Is Fournette being overused?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:56 am to cajunbama
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:56 am to cajunbama
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It relates to the topic. If Bama RBs are overused by Saban, which is the knock on them by some, then LF7 is being overused by a larger margin. I don't believe that personally about any of them, but it certainly can be debated.
I don't say this about Bama RBs unless I'm flat out trolling. Saban has always used a two back system until 2015, but Henry is the definition of a workhorse.
20 carries a game over the course of a college career is not being overused, IMO. If you start getting into the mid-20's, they you may have a case.
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:04 am to Farmer1906
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Like I said in the other thread, he should take the year off. It won't hurt his draft status. It may actually help. I know this isn't popular and it'll piss off people, but it would be the best thing for his career.
I'm sure you feel the same way about Garrett.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Total touches per game in 2015
Christian McCaffrey - 31.0
Derrick Henry - 27.1
Leonard Fournette - 26.6
There you go....thanks, Summer.
Now, if anybody wants to say Fournette is overused, you would have to say McCafferey and Henry was overused. We have to keep in mind this is total touches which would include receiving and (I am assuming) kickoff returns etc.
If I were LSU I would not allow him to return kickoffs. I cringed every time Gurley ran one back, but he didn't return them all the time. It just seems like a good way to get a valuable RB hurt.
On the other hand, when you have a valuable weapon you really want to use them. I also believe that catching passes out of the backfield leaves a RB exposed and is dangerous, although the NFL really likes those guys that can catch out of the backfield.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:35 am to DawgsLife
McCaffrey will accrue as many touches as almost any back in the last 10 years by the time he leaves Stanford. Shockingly nobody seems to have any problem with that. And open field kickoff return hits are MUCH harder on the body and brain than running backs getting hit at the LOS.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:53 am to SummerOfGeorge
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And open field kickoff return hits are MUCH harder on the body and brain than running backs getting hit at the LOS.
Absolutely. People are flying around at top speeds on kickoffs and punt returns. The overused criticism, in my opinion, is way overused and something talking heads and opposing fans use to criticize teams they don't like. It all depends on the player. Herschel Walker carried the ball a TON, but he had the body and running style that allowed him to do it. And played for a long time....but, admittedly, he was an unusual back.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:56 am to texag7
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Is Fournette being overused?
Maybe a bit, but he should still average between 21 and 23 carries per game.
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Currently has 487 carries with another season to go. A similar year to '15 would yield 787 career carries. If LSU goes to the SEC champ or playoff that number could end up being over 825.
He's a starter and a once in a decade type of player so he's definitely going to get the ball more than anyone. If he started all three years he'd have a lot of carries on him. 600 carries in 3 years is 200 per year which averages out to 15.4 carries per game. For reference, Alex Collins split time 2 years and starting a year in a heavy rush scheme and finished with 665 carries. What would he have done as the full time starter? So even in a 1-2 punch as a three year starter his carries would match Derrick Henry. I don't see that as a lot. Henry ran nearly 400 times in one year, that's when you get crazy.
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Ingram - 572 = didn't start 1st year, heisman year he ran 280 times, injured the last year and split duty with 3 RBs.
Yeldon - 576 split duties 3 years in a row and was injured parts of his last year
Henry - 602 didn't touch the ball much his 1st year? split the second year, ran 395 times as a junior
Lacy - 355 didn't play much at all year one, was Kamara to Richardson's Hurd in year 2, and was 1a in Bama's 2 prong attack as a junior
Mason - 516 only played two years but had nearly the exact same amount of carries per game as LF for his career
Gurley - 510 Had over 220 carries as a freshman but in a heavy passing attack, was injured year two and only played in 10 games, was injured and suspended in year 3 only playing in 6 games
Nick Chubb had 270 carries in his first 12 starts (I removed the game vs Tennessee in 2015 because he got hurt on the first carry).
Basically what you have is a collection of guys who were injured, suspended, split carries or behind good RBs most of their career.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:06 pm to bugafor6
IF germans, sorry, but LF sat out most of the 4th quarter against Aubbie & practically all of the 4th vs the Gamecocks, costing himself the league rushing championship. Major issue has been LSU has had no real QB to take some of the load off him. Hopefully that changes this season.
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