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re: Is a&m actually a military academy?

Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:40 pm to
Why would anyone down vote this explanation?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:43 pm to
I'll answer your questions piece by piece ("Corps" is a body of individuals, "Corp" is an abbreviation for "Corporate")

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Why would folks be in the corps of cadets if they aren't getting a commission?


This answer will be repeated, but some are in for the leadership experience who wouldn't otherwise be qualified for military service due to medical reasons. In addition, each ROTC program has caps put in place by the respective service Cadet Commands (I don't know what they call it in the Navy and Air Force) governing how many can commission in an academic year. Only three schools are allowed, by law, to commission the entirety of their uniformed student body...the three service academies. Personal example: one of my classmates, who was elected Student Body President after my senior year, had his commission revoked by MEPS due to a medical issue and was unable to serve. He was a MacArthur Award winner that some quack at MEPS decided to deny the opportunity to serve.

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Are there scholarships available if you are in the Corps?


Yes, there are two Corps-specific scholarships cadets are eligible for, one for 2 semesters' worth of tuition and one for 4 years' worth of tuition. In addition, participation in the Corps of Cadets automatically grants out of stats students in-state tuition rates.

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I was under the assumption that all of them went into the military.


Again, each ROTC program is capped by law as to how many they are allowed to commission. On average, about 44-50% of any class receives a commission, whether they graduate in 4, 5 or 6+ years. In addition, another 1-2% either go OCS, drill in the reserves, enlist or direct commission.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Why would anyone down vote this explanation?


Well, considering that texashorn has claimed in the past that t.u. commissions 3x as many officers as A&M does (when I have proof that my commissioning alone had more Lieutenants and Ensigns than they had cadets in all of their ROTC programs combined in any one year)...
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14933 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:47 pm to
LSU fought and won for the allies, the ags put 20k on the axis

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80394 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:48 pm to
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LSU fought and won for the allies, the ags put 20k on the axis


Pretty sure both John Lejune (LSU grad) and Earl Rudder (A&M grad) would rip you in half for a comment like that.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:53 pm to
Apparently you aren’t familiar with Lt Col James Earl Rudder commanding the Ranger Battalion who scaled the cliffs at Pointe du Hoc and captured the German fortifications.
Posted by carolinaswamper
unincorporated swamp, johns island,
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:00 pm to
Nah. I'ts a bunch of homosexuals in military drag.
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:10 pm to
Two of those “milkmen” are congressman Will Hurd (who is on TV now as a member of the congressional impeachment inquiry committee). Congressman Hurd is a former CIA agent. Another is Secretary Rick Perry. Perry was commissioned into the USAF @ was a C-130 pilot.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80394 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:22 pm to
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Will Hurd


Will Hurd was never a yell leader. He was class of '99. He was the student body president, but he was never a yell leader.

His yell leader classmates were Sam Bluntzer, Brandon Neff and Pat Patillo.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:28 pm to
Much appreciated. A lot more complicated than I thought. Kind of like everything these days.
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4344 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:33 pm to
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I don’t respect Aggies who, based on their attendance at A&M expect veteran recognition or imply they served.


Are you nuts? Quit making stuff up.

Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4344 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:36 pm to
My bad. Hurd was over 20 years after me. I knew he was highly respected. Student Body President is not a bad gig.

In my day a person could not be elected to either position without being in the corps.

I was a veteran when I attended.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80394 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Much appreciated. A lot more complicated than I thought. Kind of like everything these days.


Back in the late-50's/early 60's when A&M's student body was around 10,000, they could commission every cadet due to how large the services were compared to now.

Even going back as recent as the Gulf War, A&M was allowed to commission more officers due to the sheer size of the military. In November of 1995, the Armed Forces reduced by almost 60%, affecting available slots.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

In my day a person could not be elected to either position without being in the corps.


Fred McClure was a cadet?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:57 pm to
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CGSC Lobotomy
Damn you
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:17 pm to
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Another is Secretary Rick Perry. Perry was commissioned into the USAF @ was a C-130 pilot.

What was Rick Perry doing from 1969-1972, while his Haskell High School classmates were slugging it out in Vietnam?

He was playing fake soldier in College Station, that's what.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80394 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

What was Rick Perry doing from 1969-1972, while his Haskell High School classmates were slugging it out in Vietnam


You probably shouldn't use someone who actually commissioned as an example. Just saying...by all means though, keep downvoting.

PSA: According to texashorn, John Brennan is an American Hero.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
4479 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:44 pm to
No as a veteran myself I can attest they just like to pretend they are
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:49 pm to
John Brennan is, was and always will be a P.O.S.

Now keep tilting at windmills.

If Rick Perry wanted to heroically serve his country after graduating high school, he would've directly joined the military and deferred his college education.

Bill Clinton took the ROTC route to avoid going overseas, too.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80394 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Bill Clinton took the ROTC route to avoid going overseas, too


Did he commission? Perry did and served in the Air Force for 8 years.

Not even remotely comparable.

quote:

If Rick Perry wanted to heroically serve his country after graduating high school, he would've directly joined the military and deferred his college education. 


You basically just said that anyone who takes a commission and doesn't enlist doesn't serve heroically. Only a piece of shite would make that claim.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 3:52 pm
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