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re: Is a&m actually a military academy?

Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by BigDaddyDawg
Washington D.C.
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:20 pm to
AnM is kinda like my high schools JROTC program , got it.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38299 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:21 pm to
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Yes and it is surprising to most folks that don't actually visit Texas A&M or go to a game in person. ESPN, CBS, etc.... show the corps of cadets on the sideline, in the stands, and of course the band almost nonstop during televised games. It certainly looks like that is the majority of the people on campus if you go by TV. Much much different in reality.




You sound embarrassed

Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20448 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:24 pm to
Yes, this is all very embarrassing on an anonymous message board. Oh... the shame of it all. I will probably never recover from other anonymous peoples opinions.

You've clearly cracked the case inspector Clouseaux.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38299 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:25 pm to
But your’e one of many 6 “senior” military academies doe
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20448 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:29 pm to
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But your’e one of many 6 “senior” military academies doe



I have nothing but respect for the Corps of Cadets. I went to A&M but was not in the Corps. As a kid going to the games watching the Corps and the band come down the street and into the stadium was awesome. Still a huge draw and it will remain so most likely for another 100 years.

Of course... I am an adult so I probably have a different perspective than someone like you.
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1150 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:30 pm to
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No. SCOTUS said that such a law violates free speech protections.

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In United States v. Alvarez the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on June 28, 2012, that the Stolen Valor Act was an unconstitutional abridgment of the freedom of speech under the First Amendment, striking down the law in a 6 to 3 decision.


What about the Stolen Valor Act of 2013?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38299 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:32 pm to
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have nothing but respect for the Corps of Cadets.


I’m sure it’s the same respect as the armed services academies, weekly engineering meetings with you guys tapping your rings for Aggy magic.

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I went to A&M but was not in the Corps. As a kid going to the games watching the Corps and the band come down the street and into the stadium was awesome.


Doubt all of this.

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Still a huge draw and it will remain so most likely for another 100 years.


Still in doubt.

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Of course... I am an adult so I probably have a different perspective than someone like you.


The incessant trolling of you and your fan base says otherwise...
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80371 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 11:33 am to
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But your’e one of many 6 “senior” military academies doe


It's probably a good idea to read the law before you show your ignorance: Link to the relevant part of Title X

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§2111a. Support for senior military colleges

(a) Detail of Officers To Serve as Commandant or Assistant Commandant of Cadets.-(1) Upon the request of a senior military college, the Secretary of Defense may detail an officer on the active-duty list to serve as Commandant of Cadets at that college or (in the case of a college with an Assistant Commandant of Cadets) detail an officer on the active-duty list to serve as Assistant Commandant of Cadets at that college (but not both).

(2) In the case of an officer detailed as Commandant of Cadets, the officer may, upon the request of the college, be assigned from among the Professor of Military Science, the Professor of Naval Science (if any), and the Professor of Aerospace Science (if any) at that college or may be in addition to any other officer detailed to that college in support of the program.

(3) In the case of an officer detailed as Assistant Commandant of Cadets, the officer may, upon the request of the college, be assigned from among officers otherwise detailed to duty at that college in support of the program or may be in addition to any other officer detailed to that college in support of the program.

(b) Designation of Officers as Tactical Officers.-Upon the request of a senior military college, the Secretary of Defense may authorize officers (other than officers covered by subsection (a)) who are detailed to duty as instructors at that college to act simultaneously as tactical officers (with or without compensation) for the Corps of Cadets at that college.

(c) Detail of Officers.-The Secretary of a military department shall designate officers for detail to the program at a senior military college in accordance with criteria provided by the college. An officer may not be detailed to a senior military college without the approval of that college.

(d) Termination or Reduction of Program Prohibited.-The Secretary of Defense and the Secretaries of the military departments may not take or authorize any action to terminate or reduce a unit of the Senior Reserve Officers' Training Corps at a senior military college unless the termination or reduction is specifically requested by the college.

(e) Assignment to Active Duty.-(1) The Secretary of the Army shall ensure that a graduate of a senior military college who desires to serve as a commissioned officer on active duty upon graduation from the college, who is medically and physically qualified for active duty, and who is recommended for such duty by the professor of military science at the college, shall be assigned to active duty.

(2) Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit the Secretary of the Army from requiring a member of the program who graduates from a senior military college to serve on active duty.

(f) Senior Military Colleges .-The senior military colleges are the following:

(1) Texas A&M University.

(2) Norwich University.

(3) The Virginia Military Institute.

(4) The Citadel.

(5) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University.

(6) The University of North Georgia.

(Added Pub. L. 104–106, div. A, title V, §545(a), Feb. 10, 1996, 110 Stat. 317 ; amended Pub. L. 105–85, div. A, title V, §544(d)–(f)(1), Nov. 18, 1997, 111 Stat. 1745 , 1746; Pub. L. 106–65, div. A, title V, §541(c), Oct. 5, 1999, 113 Stat. 607 ; Pub. L. 113–66, div. A, title V, §583, Dec. 26, 2013, 127 Stat. 776 .)
Amendments

2013-Subsec. (f)(6). Pub. L. 113–66 amended par. (6) generally. Prior to amendment, par. (6) read as follows: "North Georgia College and State University."

1999-Subsec. (e)(1). Pub. L. 106–65 struck out at end "This paragraph shall apply to a member of the program at a senior military college who graduates from the college after March 31, 1997."

1997-Pub. L. 105–85, §544(f)(1), substituted "Support for" for "Detail of officers to" in section catchline.

Subsecs. (d), (e). Pub. L. 105–85, §544(d)(2), added subsecs. (d) and (e). Former subsec. (d) redesignated (f).

Subsec. (f). Pub. L. 105–85, §544(e), substituted "University" for "College" in par. (2) and inserted "and State University" before period at end of par. (6).

Pub. L. 105–85, §544(d)(1), redesignated subsec. (d) as (f).
Continuation of Support to Senior Military Colleges

Pub. L. 105–85, div. A, title V, §544(a)–(c), Nov. 18, 1997, 111 Stat. 1744 , provided that:

"(a) Definition of Senior Military Colleges .-For purposes of this section, the term 'senior military colleges' means the following:

"(1) Texas A&M University.

"(2) Norwich University.

"(3) The Virginia Military Institute.

"(4) The Citadel.

"(5) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University.

"(6) North Georgia College and State University.

"(b) Findings.-Congress finds the following:

"(1) The senior military colleges consistently have provided substantial numbers of highly qualified, long-serving leaders to the Armed Forces.

"(2) The quality of the military leaders produced by the senior military colleges is, in part, the result of the rigorous military environment imposed on students attending the senior military colleges by the colleges, as well as the result of the long-standing close support relationship between the Corps of Cadets at each college and the Reserve Officer Training Corps personnel at the colleges who serve as effective leadership role models and mentors.

"(3) In recognition of the quality of the young leaders produced by the senior military colleges, the Department of Defense and the military services have traditionally maintained special relationships with the colleges, including the policy to grant active duty service in the Army to graduates of the colleges who desire such service and who are recommended for such service by their ROTC professors of military science.

"(4) Each of the senior military colleges has demonstrated an ability to adapt its systems and operations to changing conditions in, and requirements of, the Armed Forces without compromising the quality of leaders produced and without interruption of the close relationship between the colleges and the Department of Defense.

"(c) Sense of Congress.-In light of the findings in subsection (b), it is the sense of Congress that-

"(1) the proposed initiative of the Secretary of the Army to end the commitment to active duty service for all graduates of senior military colleges who desire such service and who are recommended for such service by their ROTC professors of military science is short-sighted and contrary to the long-term interests of the Army;

"(2) as they have in the past, the senior military colleges can and will continue to accommodate to changing military requirements to ensure that future graduates entering military service continue to be officers of superb quality who are quickly assimilated by the Armed Forces and fully prepared to make significant contributions to the Armed Forces through extended military careers; and

"(3) decisions of the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of a military department that fundamentally and unilaterally change the long-standing relationship of the Armed Forces with the senior military colleges are not in the best interests of the Department of Defense or the Armed Forces and are patently unfair to students who made decisions to enroll in the senior military colleges on the basis of existing Department and Armed Forces policy."
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 11:42 am to
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atlanta917
There is a very lengthy answer to this question but my simple response would be “frick you.”
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:07 pm to
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There is a very lengthy answer to this question but my simple response would be “frick you.”

Your way of saying frick me is by bumping my thread?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:19 pm to
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weekly engineering meetings with you guys tapping your rings for Aggy magic.


Don't worry. We will keep that up just to piss people like you off.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:27 pm to
We are the kiddies from the kiddie corps

All little Aggies ages two to four

We play the soldier boy from, morn to night

We are the ones who show that weal ol fwight

The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You,

That is the song they sing so well

(Makes you so mad you could just spit!)

So rickety zam, rickety zam, all to hell with Texas A&M.

I want my mommy, I want my mommy, I want my mommy

NOW!
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:28 pm to
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Your way of saying frick me is by bumping my thread?

Sure, why not? Frick you again I guess.
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2208 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:30 pm to
Fortunately you will never know.
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2208 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:31 pm to
You are not even smart enough to know what valor means, nor the application of the statute. You should do a little research before you attack an Iniverduty that has provided more officers to our military outside of the service academies. You asswipes are insulting all those that have served and continue to serve in our military.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2208 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:33 pm to
You public idiocy has been noted.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7827 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:33 pm to
Only the service academies can claim more World War I and II enlistees than LSU. LSU was also founded as a military academy and seminary. Despite this, LSU doesn’t steal valor and play dress-up.

Not sure why tamu tries to claim a military pedigree for its run-of-the-mill ROTC program.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:34 pm to
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You are even smart enough to know what valor means.

Thanks.
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2208 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:36 pm to
Typical LSU liar. 5,000 LSU people in WWII...20,000+ Aggies. Aggies continue to serve all over the world in the military.
Posted by BoerneAg
Hill Country, God's Country
Member since Apr 2019
2329 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:40 pm to
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Only the service academies can claim more World War I and II enlistees than LSU.


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Approximately 20,000 A&M students and former students fought in World War II, 14,000 of them serving as officers. According to the Corps guidebook, more Aggies served as officers than any other school, “including the combined totals of the United States Military Academy and United States Naval Academy.”


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