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Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:24 pm to Old Sarge
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:24 pm to Old Sarge
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you need OUR offense and YOUR (Chavis's) Defense in today's game
Your offense that put up 0 points on bama, 20 on ole miss, 17 on LSU, 21 on ULM. Don't act like your offense is stellar. You put up a lot of points on some crappy teams and a decent amount on some average teams.
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:25 pm to cardboardboxer
well,you've turned this troll into a 6 page thread. Congrats.
Still, yes, I wish Chavis had stayed. Maybe if the defense hadn't looked so pitiful against a mediocre Notre Dame team had hadn't let Alabama score so easily in the last :50 to tie, there'd be more angst.
You're getting a good coach,but again his departure doesn't mean LSU will become SMU.
Still, yes, I wish Chavis had stayed. Maybe if the defense hadn't looked so pitiful against a mediocre Notre Dame team had hadn't let Alabama score so easily in the last :50 to tie, there'd be more angst.
You're getting a good coach,but again his departure doesn't mean LSU will become SMU.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:27 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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You mean we don't all think alike?
Go figure, we're not aggies.
I apologize that my little rant pulled the discussion away for a second, but Jesus yall are frustrating sometimes. Out of the fans on the board, LSU fans are easily the most emotional- you can't deny that. That means tiptoeing around yall like you are all women sometimes.
I am human too, I can get frustrated.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:27 pm to cardboardboxer
You moving the goal posts again?
You said:
Then I provided an example of a team he had a losing record against, and you start with the:
Yeah but me no yeah buts. Spurrier did NOT beat "everyone" while he was at UF - but he sure beat Chavis on the reg with his 'modern' offense.
Good luck.
You said:
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he beat everyone then.
Then I provided an example of a team he had a losing record against, and you start with the:
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Yeah, but...
Yeah but me no yeah buts. Spurrier did NOT beat "everyone" while he was at UF - but he sure beat Chavis on the reg with his 'modern' offense.
Good luck.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:29 pm to TheWhizzinator
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quote: 21 on ULM.
Ouch! Forgot about that
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:31 pm to I-59 Tiger
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his departure doesn't mean LSU will become SMU
No one is saying that. This thread isn't about where yall go next- that is trollbait other Aggies will go after.
I am wondering about what happened in the past that makes so many confident that yall have potential to upgrade. Not because I am trying to poke fun at the idea that yall think you will upgrade, but instead because if yall think that is such a good possibility then maybe Chavis is a fraud.
Its simple.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Yeah but me no yeah buts. Spurrier did NOT beat "everyone" while he was at UF - but he sure beat Chavis on the reg with his 'modern' offense.
Ok, good point. You win the rant today, I did move the goalposts.
I should have said "he beat everyone except some of the greatest teams of all time." Not only did FSU give him fits, but Miami was actually a force back then.
With that said, if the ceiling for Chavis is "you won't beat some of the best programs alltime" then sign me up. We aren't going to beat those programs anyway without Chavis.
Heck all I want is a run of a few double digit win seasons so Sumlin can stack our roster Dinardo-style for the next coach (who is better at coaching) to win it all Saban-style. If Chavis can give me that he earns his money.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:36 pm to cardboardboxer
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I apologize that my little rant pulled the discussion away for a second, but Jesus yall are frustrating sometimes. Out of the fans on the board, LSU fans are easily the most emotional- you can't deny that. That means tiptoeing around yall like you are all women sometimes.
What the frick are you talking about?
It's just funny when fans call fans of another team 'hypocritical', 'schizo', or 'inconsistent' when they don't all agree on a particular topic. A fan base is made up of millions of individuals, they don't all subscribe to group-think like aggies. But that doesn't make them hypocritical or hard to figure. Is the LSU fan base more fractional than others? Maybe, and I'm sorry if that hurts your poor aggie head.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:37 pm to cardboardboxer
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I am wondering about what happened in the past that makes so many confident that yall have potential to upgrade
Before Chavis we were equally as badass with Bo Pelini. Upgrade is too strong of a word. This is the internet, people are fricking stupid.
We have talent and a TOP offense so just a competent DC can be very good for us. We are foolish to think we can improve a lot because there isn't much room for improvement, but we can certainly remain just as good as a whole on defense. We might not be as good against the spread because Chavis excelled there, but we can improve our prevent/long yardage D and aggressiveness on the DL/LB.
LSU fans that are glad he left are dumb and reactionary (bird in hand), but that doesn't mean we can't get someone to put an equally as good product on the field. The people thinking we are going to take a major step back on defense are equally as dumb and reactionary.
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Lets resume this when we actually hire someone.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:37 pm to cardboardboxer
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You win the rant today
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:39 pm to cardboardboxer
He's not a fraud dude, yall got a great DC no doubt about it! is been said 100 times, he needs ELITE TALENT, even then there's gonna be some head scratchers. Your paying the man 1.7million. Where do hope your D is gonna rank after his first year? It won't be top 30, he may get yall in the top 70? Either way it's a huge upgrade for Aggie. Now is it worth what your paying? Guess that's for yall to decide
is been said 100 times, he needs ELITE TALENT, even then there's gonna be some head scratchers. Your paying the man 1.7million. Where do hope your D is gonna rank after his first year? It won't be top 30, he may get yall in the top 70? Either way it's a huge upgrade for Aggie. Now is it worth what your paying? Guess that's for yall to decide
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:43 pm to cardboardboxer
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TigerGman, yall lost the national championship when your offense couldn't cross the 50.
Man. Get a clue rake. I'm talking bout 2012 season. Before you fawn all over a defensive coordinator maybe you better look hard at his results in big games.
Bama beat us with under a minute or so to go when Chavis did one of his trademarked 2 minute drill choke jobs. They went on to beat Ga in the SEC and skull drug Notre Dame in Miami.
I'm convinced we'd a been there instead had not Chavis screwed the pooch once again.
After the game McCarron was quoted as saying we knew if it came down to the 2 minute drill we'd win. What does that tell ya about the great Chavis D when even the opponent knows in the biggest game of the year he's gonna shite the bed in the two minute drill ?
And he does the exact same thing this year.
Enjoy cleaning up the bed sheets in College Station the next 3 years.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:44 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Is the LSU fan base more fractional than others?
Not really. That wasn't my complaint.
Heck, your fanbase fragmentation is NOTHING compared to some others. Like Texas fans, who range from the moron who mows your lawn to a guy with three degrees that does your taxes. Or UF fans and how they can't decide if they want a major program or if they are above that, or if they are a basketball school or if they are above that. Or Notre Dame fans who dither between intense football knowledge and bandwagon mouthbreathers who mistakenly feel Catholic still matters as a demographic anywhere but Latin America in 2014.
As a group, LSU fans are pretty homogenous. That isn't the issue. The issue is that as a group the number one shared group characteristic is a very emotional perspective on the sport. That isn't even necessarily a bad thing, in fact it rocks if you are trying to troll LSU fans. It sucks for a conversation though, for the same reason why I won't talk politics with my wives's friends.
This thread is going great though, I am happy with the responses. So thank you all.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:49 pm to cardboardboxer
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they can't decide if they want
That's exactly what I'm talking about. How do you suggest an entire fan base get together and decide on something - and why would they?
That's the type of comment that comes from group-think.
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As a group, LSU fans are pretty homogenous.
They seem pretty split on whether to keep Miles or not.
They also seem pretty split on whether losing Chavis was a good thing or a bad thing.
It seems I see the LSU fan base referred to as 'schizo' more often than any other.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:49 pm to cardboardboxer
So answer my question. Where does Aggie D need to rank next for you to feel like 1.7 mill was worth it?
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:50 pm to cardboardboxer
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As a group, LSU fans are pretty homogenous.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:51 pm to cardboardboxer
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The issue is that as a group the number one shared group characteristic is a very emotional perspective on the sport. That isn't even necessarily a bad thing, in fact it rocks if you are trying to troll LSU fans. It sucks for a conversation though, for the same reason why I won't talk politics with my wives's friends
Condescending bullshite from the dude who couldn't recognize the obviously spurious argument of offense ranked 7, defense ranked 3, therefore offense was the greater impediment to success in said season. And even after 2 posters spelled it out for you.
This is the most passive aggressive OP ever.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:53 pm to TheCaterpillar
This guy obviously doesn't read the Rant much. LSU fans are constantly at war with one another about everything. Homogeneous we are certainly not.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:54 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Upgrade is too strong of a word. This is the internet, people are fricking stupid.
I get that.
I am not criticising the opinion that yall might upgrade, or am I doubting it will happen. With all those coaching hire stuff NO ONE KNOWS until the games are played. Plenty of top coaches have flopped in new positions (hello Fran) and plenty of no-names have overperformed. So we won't even know the story when LSU actually hires someone. We won't know till next season.
What I am interested in is the rationalization itself. Normally rationalizations go after low hanging fruit- which in this case would be expecting better recruiting or expecting Les to be forced to put out a better offense. But in this case LSU fans are expected BETTER DEFENSIVE COACHING, which should be the HARDEST rationalization to swallow if your program really lost a guy who is a top 10 DC.
Maybe it can be as good, but to really expect BETTER means that many LSU fans DO believe that there is "much room for improvement." To me that shows that maybe yall know something we don't, and so I am trying to get to the bottom of it.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:00 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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That's the type of comment that comes from group-think.
Hence my perspective problem. I see the world from maroon lenses, a world where you put out the talking points gotten from the mothership and hope for even more touchdowns next year. So that is the point of me asking for another perspective.
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They also seem pretty split on whether losing Chavis was a good thing or a bad thing.
True, true. But for those who think it is a good thing, the RATIONALIZATION is almost always the same- aka a rationalization of potentially better DEFENSIVE coaching. That is the key.
Exceptions make the rules, and trends show a pattern. I am just trying to make sense of it all.
Now you can say that this is just a few crazy LSU fans who are full of crap, which is fine. But in this life normally where there is smoke there is fire, so I am looking for a fire that might burn up our huge new investment.
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