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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:16 am to goat
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:16 am to TwelfthMan
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Who else can you argue with?
Your in-laws?
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:17 am to cardboardboxer
I've been a huge a Chavis fan until this year. He consistently praised DJ Welter in practice like he was the next coming of a Kevin Minter but he was the worst LSU mike linebacker I've ever seen. He hyped Welter up and kept him in the starting lineup while more talented backers sat on the bench.
Chavis also is supposed to be a LB coach but that position has been a weakness since he was hired. The 2011 defense missed a dominant linebacker corps but it was masked by having Michael Brockers on the line and an insanely talented secondary.
Chavis also is supposed to be a LB coach but that position has been a weakness since he was hired. The 2011 defense missed a dominant linebacker corps but it was masked by having Michael Brockers on the line and an insanely talented secondary.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 10:19 am
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:17 am to TxTiger82
If you look at games where we had the worst TOP, we had our worst defensive performances.
ETA from post on rant:
LSU was 9th in TOP.
The only games where LSU's opponent had the ball more were: Miss State, Auburn, Arkansas, and Notre Dame. Three of the four were arguably LSU's worst defensive performances.
Texas A&M ranked 125th averaging a little more than 26 minutes per game in 2014.
ETA from post on rant:
LSU was 9th in TOP.
The only games where LSU's opponent had the ball more were: Miss State, Auburn, Arkansas, and Notre Dame. Three of the four were arguably LSU's worst defensive performances.
Texas A&M ranked 125th averaging a little more than 26 minutes per game in 2014.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:18 am to cardboardboxer
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cardboardboxer
If you want to see the ideal Chavis defense, go watch some rnolan53 vids on youtube from the 2011 season. It will make you excited.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:19 am to cardboardboxer
Like I've said, I've known him since he was at Alabama A&M. Actually known him. Talked to him. Okay?
That's what I keep saying. PLEASE go talk to the man if humanly possible. He is not a genius. He's been surrounded by unreal talent. He was very lucky to be at LSU and stay there this long.
It is a HUGE mistake for him and actually a surprise to me he has become egotistical, especially at his advanced age.
You asked for it, buddy you got it. Your problem. I really could care less. Football is no longer that big of a deal for me after covering it for so many years. The thug mentality has taken its toll on me, so I really have no fish to fry.
And, like I've said numerous times, the best thing the man can do is cook ribs. I'll never forget the time everyone at Alabama A&M was asking him for his secret at practice one evening. When he finally said he'd tell us, the entire practice stopped, LOL.
His secret: "beer".
That's what I keep saying. PLEASE go talk to the man if humanly possible. He is not a genius. He's been surrounded by unreal talent. He was very lucky to be at LSU and stay there this long.
It is a HUGE mistake for him and actually a surprise to me he has become egotistical, especially at his advanced age.
You asked for it, buddy you got it. Your problem. I really could care less. Football is no longer that big of a deal for me after covering it for so many years. The thug mentality has taken its toll on me, so I really have no fish to fry.
And, like I've said numerous times, the best thing the man can do is cook ribs. I'll never forget the time everyone at Alabama A&M was asking him for his secret at practice one evening. When he finally said he'd tell us, the entire practice stopped, LOL.
His secret: "beer".
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 10:24 am
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:23 am to TheCaterpillar
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I don’t think he’ll be nearly as good for TAMU as he was for LSU
Me neither, but luckily we don't need him to be. We just need serviceable. We haven't had that at A&M in a while.
Thanks for the rest of your input.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:24 am to cardboardboxer
GIve it 3 years. You'll learn to hate him yourself.
Blow big game after big game on last minute scoring drives across the field.
Keep deluding your self with meaningless stats and ignoring the reality of a big part of why LSU hasn't won anything in years.
He's blown so many big games in the final minutes I lost count.
Did you even watch the last drive at the Music City Bowl?
Blow big game after big game on last minute scoring drives across the field.
Keep deluding your self with meaningless stats and ignoring the reality of a big part of why LSU hasn't won anything in years.
He's blown so many big games in the final minutes I lost count.
Did you even watch the last drive at the Music City Bowl?
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:27 am to TxTiger82
First of all, thank you for the response.
That doesn't seem like a big deal to me considering how so much of the SEC runs a modern offense. Right now Auburn, Ole Miss and Bama are on our schedule every year with a modern offense. Within a few years I see USC going that way when Spurrier leaves as they try to cling onto relevance with worse talent. So Chavis is perfect for that future.
The needing talent thing I am concerned about. Our LB talent is suspicious, and our depth at most positions sucks. One good thing though is most of our best talent is young, so Chavis gets to mold what will be his starters in his own image.
I don't mind Chavis not recruiting, we have enough recruiters we need a coach. I am concerned if he can't get results from players who weren't his top choice.
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The personnel problem is simply that Chavis' defenses typically give up some size to the opponent.
That doesn't seem like a big deal to me considering how so much of the SEC runs a modern offense. Right now Auburn, Ole Miss and Bama are on our schedule every year with a modern offense. Within a few years I see USC going that way when Spurrier leaves as they try to cling onto relevance with worse talent. So Chavis is perfect for that future.
The needing talent thing I am concerned about. Our LB talent is suspicious, and our depth at most positions sucks. One good thing though is most of our best talent is young, so Chavis gets to mold what will be his starters in his own image.
I don't mind Chavis not recruiting, we have enough recruiters we need a coach. I am concerned if he can't get results from players who weren't his top choice.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:28 am to cardboardboxer
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but instead the story is how glad yall are to get rid of that bum Chavis and how you can't wait to upgrade
Basically nobody referred to him as a bum or was eager to replace him. Another bullshite portrayal by an Aggie.
He did have weaknesses and was not an active recruiter. Losing Chavis definitely sucks but when LSU fans point out that the sky isn't falling over it the Aggie trolls get worked into a frenzy bc they want to have something to clutch onto to give the perception that LSU is doomed and their star is on the rise.
We don't know yet who is replacing Chavis, so to insist his loss is either devastating or an upgrade is premature. With a solid hire there is potential for the loss to be negligible and even be a potential upgrade, particularly in recruiting. Believe it or not, LSU has had terrific defenses prior to Chavis.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:29 am to cardboardboxer
Only a fool would state Chavis was a mistake
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:32 am to TigerGman
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ignoring the reality of a big part of why LSU hasn't won anything in years.
The whole point of this thread is I see LSU fans pointing to Chavis and calling him "a big part of why LSU hasn't won anything in years" even though the LSU offense is the worst one on the SEC. For any outsider looking at yall the last few years the "big" problem was obviously the coordinator who stayed, not the one who left.
With that said, even if Chavis isn't the reason for tDecline there is enough complaints I feel just by the odds some have to be valid. Hence the thread.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:33 am to namvet6566
easy money's post on the Rant:
I posted this to emphasize that Chavis needs TOP in his favor.
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Even after a not so normal 23 minutes of possession against Notre Dame. 2 one play possessions and a special teams td drastically affected that. The tigers averaged 32:58 per game. The only games where LSU's opponent had the ball more were: Miss State, Auburn, Arkansas, and Notre Dame. Three of the four were arguably LSU's worst defensive performances.
Texas A&M ranked 125th averaging a little more than 26 minutes per game in 2014. I expect them do be much improved, but that's a lot of time on defense for the overwhelmingly worst scoring defense in the SEC west.
LSU 8-1 when they win time of possession (1 loss against Bama in OT) and 0-4 when they lose time of possession.
I posted this to emphasize that Chavis needs TOP in his favor.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:36 am to cardboardboxer
Chavis has his issues but his defenses are unquestionably good overall. You will learn to accept soft coverage on 3rd and long or "3rd and Chavis" though, and soft coverage when leading at the end of games.
You will also learn that he doesn't do well when working with a down talent pool. His last few years at UT were plagued by this, but his defenses were still very good, just not elite.
It's a great hire for A&M, regardless of what anyone says. I hated when UT lost him, and as you can see we still haven't fully recovered from that little experiment.
You will also learn that he doesn't do well when working with a down talent pool. His last few years at UT were plagued by this, but his defenses were still very good, just not elite.
It's a great hire for A&M, regardless of what anyone says. I hated when UT lost him, and as you can see we still haven't fully recovered from that little experiment.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:36 am to cardboardboxer
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With that said, even if Chavis isn't the reason for tDecline there is enough complaints I feel just by the odds some have to be valid. Hence the thread.
A. lol at tDecline. Keep taking shots when we're trying to answer honestly.
B. Chavis is a damn good DC, but his performance is contingent on two things that we've said: TOP and elite players at key positions (CB mainly).
C. A&M has neither. The personnel thing can obviously change, but Sumlin might not have that long. TOP is something you will never have with Sumlin's offense. When our TOP was bad, our defense was bad.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:39 am to TheCaterpillar
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When our TOP was bad, our defense was bad.
This is true for most defenses, regardless of coach.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:41 am to HerbEaverstinks
quote:So you do care. At least a little.
You asked for it, buddy you got it. Your problem. I really could care less.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:41 am to cardboardboxer
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even though the LSU offense is the worst one on the SEC.
He won most games with overwhelming NFL caliber talent. And even at that he choked big game after big game. Sure a better offense would have made a difference, but so would any semblance of a two minute drill defense too.
With lack luster talent this year his defense got totally skull drug in several games--early and often. Can't blame that on lack of offense.
Many LSU fans are apoplectic to see him go--just shows you there are deluded fans everywhere.
Me? I'm happy to see him go. No doubt in my mind he cost us the National Championship in 2012 when blew the Bama game, and at least an SEC appearance when he blew it all over again this year.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 10:42 am
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:44 am to ChewyDante
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Basically nobody referred to him as a bum or was eager to replace him. Another bullshite portrayal by an Aggie.
Not at all. Read Tiger Rant for a few minutes and you will find many happy that he is gone. Heck there is some of that in this thread.
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Aggie trolls get worked into a frenzy bc they want to have something to clutch onto to give the perception that LSU is doomed and their star is on the rise.
We have a half a billion dollar stadium to hang our hat on for that. I just want to know if we wasted a few million.
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