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re: Hard look at Kirby & Georgia?
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:31 am to ironsides
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:31 am to ironsides
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On the flip side Richt is dominating at Miami with less talent than he had at Georgia.
Facts matter.
Who has he beaten that is worth a bucket of water?
Florida Atlantic, Florida A&M, App State and GA Tech aren't exactly world beaters.
Matter of fact, most GT fans here in ATL would kill to have Paul Johnson gone.
IF they beat FSU, that is a great win. But thats a big IF.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:35 am to HolographicCharizard
Kirby Smart >>>>>> Butch Jones
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 8:37 am
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:37 am to 12thFairway
He is like Gus. They are both learning how to be a HC. What is bad for them...............they are both trying to learn while competing in the toughest Conf. in the nation.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:40 am to Butch stones
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The Tennessee game was a loss man.. Gotta let it go and accept it
Why would he? he's not a Georgia fan.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:45 am to Bench McElroy
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That's not true. Pretty much every great coach who started their career at an elite program won pretty much right away. Bob Stoops, Barry Switzer, Tom Osborne, and even the likes of Lloyd Carr, Mark Richt and Phil Fulmer were all able to win at least 75% of their games by their second year.
While this may be true, I would be willing to bet that Kirby wins 75% of his games this year...his first. That would be a 9-3 season. If we can split one between Florida and Auburn we should go 9-3. It's doable this year, and I think certain next year.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:16 am to 12thFairway
firing Richt was the right move for Georgia.
hiring a coordinator that has zero hc experience wasn't. he may turn out to be a good coach, but it was still a risky decision.
hiring a coordinator that has zero hc experience wasn't. he may turn out to be a good coach, but it was still a risky decision.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 11:55 am to mmjones87
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IF they beat FSU, that is a great win. But thats a big IF.
With this years fsu, great might be an exaggeration.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:33 pm to DawgsLife
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While this may be true, I would be willing to bet that Kirby wins 75% of his games this year...his first. That would be a 9-3 season. If we can split one between Florida and Auburn we should go 9-3. It's doable this year, and I think certain next year.
9-3 should be attainable by any coach at UG with a pulse, given how consistently shitty the East is plus your recruiting advantages. It's a blessing and a curse for yall because it's hard to fire winning coaches.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:37 pm to ironsides
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With that out of the way, Kirby is losing to teams that don't have as much talent as you do.
bullshite, OM out recruited us in the 16 and 13. UT our recruited us in in 14 and 15. Our 13/14 classes have been wiped out by injury and transfers.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:51 pm to JoJoDolphinus
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should be attainable by any coach at UG with a pulse, given how consistently shitty the East is plus your recruiting advantages. It's a blessing and a curse for yall because it's hard to fire winning coaches.
Top 25 should be, but it wasn't for richt over the recent ten years.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:53 pm to 12thFairway
He's a poor man's Muschamp
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:17 pm to mattytiger123
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He's a poor man's Muschamp
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mattytiger123
You're a poor man's Mizzoukills with that troll bait.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:25 pm to MrAUTigers
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He is like Gus.
They are similar in that they are head coaches in the SEC. That is about where it ends.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:32 pm to JoJoDolphinus
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quote: While this may be true, I would be willing to bet that Kirby wins 75% of his games this year...his first. That would be a 9-3 season. If we can split one between Florida and Auburn we should go 9-3. It's doable this year, and I think certain next year. 9-3 should be attainable by any coach at UG with a pulse, given how consistently shitty the East is plus your recruiting advantages. It's a blessing and a curse for yall because it's hard to fire winning coaches.
So by description Richt was:
Coach without a pulse in - 2006, 2009, 2010, 2013
Coach with a pulse in - 2008, 2015
Did a good job in - 2007, 2011, 2012, 2014
Now you might be understanding why we want more than a "coach with a pulse or worse" 60% of the time.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:36 pm to Dawgfanman
Georgia sold their reliable CD and bought a penny stock I hope it works out for them
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:39 pm to mattloc
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Georgia sold their reliable CD and bought a penny stock I hope it works out for them
Almost. Georgia got rid of a CD, which doesn't even provide a return equal to inflation, and out our money into a growth stock. We knew for sure our money was dying a slow death in the CD, at least now we have hope of some return.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:14 pm to djsdawg
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Very difficult for the safety to make the right decision in that situation.
Thats a 1/100 pass in that situation
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:24 pm to 12thFairway
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FWIW Kirby isn't ready for a top job like Georgia. He's been around Saban but Kirby doesn't have the gravitas or personal management skills to inspire the players, coach the team, and do all the other things it takes to win at the highest level. It's just too much for Kirby and I think Georgia is in for a tough few years of underachieving - less successful than the Richt years.
When did UGA become a blue-blood elite school? Throughout history UGA has underachieved. Getting rid of Richt was one of the dumbest moves in college football.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:28 pm to mattloc
UGA hired Smart but failed to study what he did at Bama. He had problems stopping teams with good QBs, it continues to be a problem. See Cam,JFF,Murray, Barrett, Knight, Marshall, Watson, now Kelly and Dodds. The better the QB play gets in the SEC, the bigger the problems are going to be for him.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:30 pm to Irons Puppet
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He had problems stopping teams
Didn't the board try to tell us when he was hired it was saban's defense and smart was just a puppet? Well which is it, were those saban's defenses or smarts?
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with good QBs, it continues to be a problem. See Cam,JFF,Murray, Barrett, Knight, Marshall, Watson, now Kelly and Dodds.
I know you aren't stupid enough to not see the connection here...but you realize that the multiple heisman finalists/winners and other All American type folks you listed have done extremely well against just about everyone they've played...right? Kelly just lit the frick up out of bama this year without smart..maybe he's just a really good QB? Crazy I know.
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The better the QB play gets in the SEC, the bigger the problems are going to be for him.
You can say this for literally any coach in america. "Well the better the opponent they play against the tougher time they'll have". Yeah, no shite.
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