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re: Hard look at Kirby & Georgia?

Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32845 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:58 pm to
When you are used to 5 star loaded rosters, richt talent is an adjustment. Talent matters to a man.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33937 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 10:49 pm to
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Not even Nick Saban was dominant in the beginning of his career. Few coaches are.


That's not true. Pretty much every great coach who started their career at an elite program won pretty much right away. Bob Stoops, Barry Switzer, Tom Osborne, and even the likes of Lloyd Carr, Mark Richt and Phil Fulmer were all able to win at least 75% of their games by their second year. All of the coaches who struggled early in their careers were at lesser programs. They certainly were never at a place like Georgia where it should be very easy to win right away if you're truly a top coach.
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 7:31 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 11:19 pm to
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and if they played the last 2 minutes of that game 100 times Georgia would win 99 of them.

Tennessee would blow a coverage with 12 seconds left and allow a 50 yard TD 99 out of 100 times? It's like a lot of people forgot that part happened
This post was edited on 10/2/16 at 11:20 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 11:24 pm to


Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 11:25 pm to
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That's not true. Pretty much every great coach who started their career at an elite program won pretty much right away such as Bob Stoops, Barry Switzer and Tom Osborne. Hell, even the likes of Lloyd Carr, Mark Richt and Phil Fulmer were all able to win at least 75% of their games by their second year. All of the coaches who struggled early in their careers were at lesser programs. They certainly were never at a place like Georgia where it should be very easy to win right away if you're truly a top coach.


UGA's schedule means their floor for this year is 8 wins. They won't lose less than that no matter how bad or good Kirby is.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 5:02 am to
He looks like he's taking wing in that picture.

"frick this! I'm out of here." :flap flap flap:

Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 5:06 am to
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In fact I don't consider the Tennessee game a loss - it was more luck that anything else and if they played the last 2 minutes of that game 100 times Georgia would win 99 of them




This fricking place, I swear.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 5:24 am to
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But Eason already has the makings of a huge career, which may overcome Kirby's OJT phase.


This kid might be a program changer.

Some Georgia fans need to breath and take a step back. First year for Smart as HC and the SEC is always tough.

I hate to admit this, but I have no doubt GA will be much better by the time we play them.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44808 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 5:46 am to
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I hate to admit this, but I have no doubt GA will be much better by the time we play them.


If that is the case, it will be a successful first year for Kirby.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30546 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 7:58 am to
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I hate to admit this, but I have no doubt GA will be much better by the time we play them.


I'm not saying we'll win out, but UF might be the only team we aren't favored against
Posted by HoustonRebel
Houston
Member since Dec 2015
432 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:02 am to
5 games in and he has already loss as many games as he lost in 2.5 years at Bama...
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30546 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:11 am to
Except that was Saban, not Kirby

DCs dont get credit for the win
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2568 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:13 am to
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Not even Nick Saban was dominant in the beginning of his career.


quote:

That's not true.


How is this not true? He wasn't dominant when he took over at Toledo. He wasn't dominant when he took over at Michigan State. He wasn't dominant when he took over at LSU. He wasn't dominant when he took over the Miami Dolphins, and he wasn't dominant when he took over Alabama. Yet, we all know how great a coach he is. I'm not saying Kirby is a great coach like Saban, but no one really knows yet.
Posted by HoustonRebel
Houston
Member since Dec 2015
432 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:20 am to
He got ALL the credit for the defenses accomplishments. So much so he delayed his move to Georgia because he was to valuable to the Alabama defense for them to play in the national championship without his leadership...

How's that dropoff to the Bama defense look this year??

Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5549 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:22 am to
Its been 5 fricking games. Some of you have to be retarded. Tis the only explanation. Had Dobbs miracle TD pass at the end of the game been swatted down, people would be singing the guys praises. Can we let the guy have a few years before we start this shite?

My God this board ripped into UGA when Richt was here clamoring over how mediocre he and UGA were...we get a new coach and 5 games into the season he is a bust and won't do anything.

Just say you hate UGA and go about your day. F
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2568 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:25 am to
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How's that dropoff to the Bama defense look this year??


Wouldn't have expected it to drop off much if at all. They got another solid DC and they're loaded with 5 Star talent. Your premise doesn't really make sense.

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So much so he delayed his move to Georgia because he was to valuable to the Alabama defense for them to play in the national championship without his leadership...


Yes, I'm pretty sure his leadership, but also the loyalty he had to his current players was pretty fricking important for a National Championship game.
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 8:28 am
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:27 am to
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moral victories


If UGA claims this as a moral victory, should the Nicholls game be a moral defeat?
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 8:28 am
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2568 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:29 am to
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If UGA claims this as a moral victory


Not one single UGA fan has claimed this as a moral victory.
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5549 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:31 am to
Who the frick is this "Georgia" you guys speak of in this thread claiming moral victories? We lost the fricking game. Most UGA fans are beyond mad at that last play and none of us are claiming any kind of moral anything.

Kirby even said he doesn't believe in Moral victories.

This fricking board is full of morons.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11089 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:35 am to
I know that he must be working all hours of the day. Sumbitch hasn't washed his hair since August.
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