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re: fumble or not?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:26 pm to KaiserSoze99
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:26 pm to KaiserSoze99
You can flick me off all you want you little girl. He fumbled it before crossing the plane...its very obvious. Let it go.
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:26 pm to KaiserSoze99
well you are no johnny fricking cochran
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:28 pm to parkjas2001
you mad?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:28 pm to Funky Tide 8
You have GOT to be trolling or you obviously don't understand standards of proof. Indisputable is like reasonable doubt. It's a very high standard.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:30 pm to parkjas2001
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You can flick me off all you want you little girl. He fumbled it before crossing the plane...its very obvious. Let it go.
Ummmkay. Whatever you say, bud.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:30 pm to KaiserSoze99
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You have GOT to be trolling or you obviously don't understand standards of proof. Indisputable is like reasonable doubt. It's a very high standard.
Look man, I'm sorry that you missed the game the other day. It was clear during the shots and zoom ins that were shown during the broadcast that it was the correct call. Your problem is that you are using shitty evidence to support your claim. That is not our problem.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:30 pm to Hugh McElroy
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you mad?
Yes, Im furious that Tenn fumbled...kept me up all night.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:35 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Look man, I'm sorry that you missed the game the other day. It was clear during the shots and zoom ins that were shown during the broadcast that it was the correct call. Your problem is that you are using shitty evidence to support your claim. That is not our problem.
I already said I would consider other evidence. I am not the person with the burden of proof. The OP asked if that was a fumble. Based on what he provided, NO. It's even more condeming if I am asked to play the roll of replay official, because there is no way a reasonable person believes that GIF alone is indisputable evidence of a fumble enough to overturn the TD called on the field. I went out of my way, beyond my burden and found another photo that shows the player gripping the ball with his left hand by the nose.
So I'm not the one using shitty evidence. You're the one failing to provide it. Based on what you have proved, you fail. Touchdown. Get over it.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:36 pm to Hugh McElroy
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I don't think it is a fumble. At first glance, it looks OBVIOUSLY like a fumble, but some of that might be an illusion due to when he takes his right hand off the ball. It looks like he loses the ball at that point, but, when you look more closely, you can see the ball is still in his left hand. The big question is this...Does the ball come out of his left hand before or after it begins to cross the front of the white line? I don't know.
This. Shouldn't have been overturned IMO
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:42 pm to DawgNation2012
Fumble and I wanted TN to win.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:42 pm to KaiserSoze99
I don't get what you are trying to argue here. At the half yardline the ball is coming out. Video proves that. I could post a picture from the 1.5 yard line and he probably has full possession, but so what? Possession was lost before the ball crossed the goal line. That picture is not near that point
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:43 pm to Hugh McElroy
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How exactly can you look at that picture and say conclusively that he is not holding the ball by the nose with his left hand at the point in time that the ball begins to break the plane of the goal line?
Well that pic does show he is holding the ball, but also looks to be about a yard from the pylon.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:44 pm to NYCAuburn
Touchdown
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:44 pm to Hugh McElroy
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But, by that point, the ball has begun to break the plane.
1-2 frames would not be at the goal line, at 24 frames per second.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:46 pm to Hugh McElroy
The main question is why on earth did he think he could extend the ball with only three fingers, and not fumble? I know you can hold a ball with only three fingers, but most people can't do it while diving and being tackled.
I really wanted this not to be a fumble and I can see why some people think it's not. To me it looks like his thumb is not on the ball at the half yard line. Only two fingers on once side of the ball is fumbling the ball. Plus there is a lot of ball movement during the transfer to his left hand. It's easy to say that was the beginning of the fumble, and he never gained possession back. I can see why it was overturned.
I really wanted this not to be a fumble and I can see why some people think it's not. To me it looks like his thumb is not on the ball at the half yard line. Only two fingers on once side of the ball is fumbling the ball. Plus there is a lot of ball movement during the transfer to his left hand. It's easy to say that was the beginning of the fumble, and he never gained possession back. I can see why it was overturned.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:46 pm to KaiserSoze99
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So I'm not the one using shitty evidence.
yes, you are.
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You're the one failing to provide it
Like I said, sorry you missed the indisputable evidence that was shown during the game. I really couldnt care less about it.
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you fail. Touchdown. Get over it.
Actually, it wasnt a touchdown. It was a fumble. The professionals made the correct call. Looks like you are failing throughout this thread. Sorry.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:48 pm to Funky Tide 8
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The professionals made the correct call.
They've never made an incorrect replay ruling, ever.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:49 pm to Tennessee Jed
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They've never made an incorrect replay ruling, ever.
in this case, they did.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:49 pm to Tennessee Jed
So, the indisputable evidence to overturn te call was not there. There was instead indisputable evidence to confirm the call?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:49 pm to sarc
Here, I finally found indisputable, 100% proof. You can clearly and plainly see the ball has already entered the endzone before he gets there. Case closed.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 4:52 pm
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