re: First Battle of Civil War was Battle of Blackjack b/t Missouri & Kansas Forces

Best post you've had here, by far. You're obviously up to something

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This started with asking about Jesse James (my bad?). I can't think of a military reason, particularly after the war, for robbing banks and trains. To me his defenders are all about taking it to the Yankees, when the truth was more like "we rob banks because that's where the money is."

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Possibly because raiding, killing, and stealing were the only life skills the lad had. New laws in Missouri denied many rights to former Confederate soldiers - they were barred from voting, owning property, and other important aspects of life. That left few options for men like the Jameses and the Youngers.

C'mon. This sounds like today's headlines. The poor soul had no choice but to rob the bank as he had no marketable skills and was prevented by the man from learning a trade.

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ikr?

Caught myself nodding in agreement halfway through and that disturbed me

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I guarantee you the sumbitch is up to something and lurking, waiting to pounce. You can't trust that guy or his ilk.

First impressions count. t.u. poster? He's lying or up to something.

We lead the series 57-54...

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We lead the series 57-54...

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That sounds like some fuzzy math, Missouri lost a ton of battles for the confederacy.

Battle of Boonville
Battle of Fredericktown
First Battle of Springfield
Battle of Belmont
Battle of Mount Zion Church
Battle of Roan's Tan Yard
Battle of Island Number Ten
(Battle of New Madrid)
Battle of Kirksville
Second Battle of Springfield (as if it wasn't enough they lost the 1st time.)
Battle of Cape Girardeau
Battle of Fort Davidson
Battle of Byram's Ford
Battle of Westport
Battle of Mine Creek
Battle of Marmiton River
Battle of Marais des Cygnes
Second Battle of Newtonia
Battle of Mine Creek
Second Battle of Newtonia
Battle of Athens
Skirmish at Blackwater Creek
Battle of Compton's Ferry
Skirmish at Island Mound
Battle of Camden Point


I mean, I'm not pointing fingers but this is a lot of L's by Missouri. Don't you think if they would've just tried harder maybe the war would have been different?

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so you saying that confederates fought for something other than slavery? Oh my...

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The Cornerstone Speech, also known as the Cornerstone Address, was delivered extemporaneously by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens in Savannah, Georgia on March 21, 1861. The speech explained what the differences were between the constitution of the Confederate Republic and that of the United States, laid out the Confederate causes for the American Civil War, and defended slavery. The 'Cornerstone Speech' became so known for Stephens' asserting,


Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition.[1]

The speech was given weeks after the secession of South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and then Texas and less than three weeks after the inauguration of U.S. President Lincoln. Hostilities between the two sides had not yet begun.


1. Schott, Thomas E. Alexander H. Stephens of Georgia: A Biography.1996, page 334

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Pretty. White. Girls.

No joke, and I'm not being racist in the least, I swear

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See, and I'd sign with Emory for just the opposite reason. Wait, err, is "Pretty. Black. Girls." just the opposite or the same, sort of?

Ugly Black Boys would be opposite I suppose. So I withdraw the "just the opposite" comment.

Bobby De Niro and me .... that's how we roll.