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re: ESPN unhappy with the new Omaha stadium
Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:42 pm to DaleDenton
Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:42 pm to DaleDenton
really again with the cute hashtag names. I also really like how you jumped right into the absurdity also what with the talks of suspending games for wind. I also said that state should have adjusted to the stadium so it seems that you may have overlooked that. I think you're confusing the fact that I said no team should have to change their style of play upon arrival to the cws.
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:49 pm to breazy
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I also said that state should have adjusted to the stadium so it seems that you may have overlooked that
Its obvious, but you say things like:
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But hey, continue to look for sour grapes. You won't find any here, we got beaten because we couldn't/wouldn't adapt.
That is sour grapes, you are saying that:
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no team should have to change their style of play upon arrival to the cws.
meaning the stadium configuration/conditions is why #failstate lived up to their name, not that UCLA beat you, which is exactly what happened.
If the stadium was different so that #failstate didn't have to adapt/change their style, they would have won = sour grapes.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:52 pm to dlc83
Tarholes. Not moving, not changing.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:53 pm to DaleDenton
I see what you are saying and I'll clarify. We got beaten because we couldn't/wouldn't adapt and even if we had, we likely would have been beaten by the team that has more experience playing small ball.
Is that better.
Secondary to the issue you seem awfully concerned with MSU and it's failures. You may want to look into your own teams issues before you start on another's. Just sayin.
Is that better.
Secondary to the issue you seem awfully concerned with MSU and it's failures. You may want to look into your own teams issues before you start on another's. Just sayin.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 7:13 pm to Tennessee Jed
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It should go to Hoover. There's a mall. and plenty of room for RVs.
or Montgomery, they can play at Patterson Field
Posted on 6/27/13 at 7:21 pm to Diamondawg
ESPN's coverage of the CWS has played a huge role in college baseball's increasing popularity. While the NCAA & Omaha does have a long term contract, ESPN is a major player, don't kid yourself. All they have to say is that they are no longer interested in covering 2-1 games over a 2 wk period & both the city & the NCAA will roll over. ESPN is like the Federal Govt that way: you take Federal dollars, you give up some control to the government. ESPN threatens to pull their coverage & shite will happen. This is one reason I am not jumping up & down over the SEC's tv contract with ESPN. They give the league a lot of money & will have a lot to say bout everything in the league in return.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 7:45 pm to Keltic Tiger
Keenly aware of ESPN's role in all of this and I understand that ESPN could pass on the next tv contract when it comes up. I just disagreed that ESPN could insist on a change in venue as the OP suggested.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:34 pm to Keltic Tiger
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the SEC's tv contract with ESPN. They give the league a lot of money & will have a lot to say bout everything in the league in return.
Exactly. Thought I was the only one that wasn't that excited about the SEC/ESPN contract. We will all be professing our love for gheys and Yankees because ESPN said we have to.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:02 pm to MetryTyger
quote:Old Arlington Stadium, where the Rangers played from 1972 until the new ballpark opened in 1994, is oriented in the same direction and had the same problem with the wind. Right field at the old stadium was just about impossible to hit a ball out of. The Rangers never intentionally did anything to fix this, but they installed a new wrap around scoreboard, that extended well above the old outfield bleachers, with the result that the wind went over the scoreboard, hit the upper deck behind home plate, and washed back in the direction of the fence. It turned a pitchers park into a hitter's park. The same could be done at Omaha, although it would hurt the aesthetics somewhat.
Hypothetically, I wonder how in Hades they could do that? Reverse the field? Change location of the field? Move the fences in 10 feet?
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Note the flags above the scoreboard blowing in:
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:32 pm to twk
Something should be done. You won't grow the sport with the CWS being like it is now. And if fans keep tuning out, ESPN will move the games to the U, and then possibly drop them all together. If you see a 3 run lead in the 3rd inning, and know the game is pretty much over, people will not continue to watch.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:03 pm to Tiger Live2
Watching this CWS was like watching the classic AU-MSU 3-2 game over and over again.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:22 pm to lsufan251875
I'm all for a great pitching matchup, but I want a threat of a HR.
If my numbers are right, hasn't there been less than half the number of hr's the last 3 years as there were in 09. 45 vs 22. A 3-0 game in the third this year felt like a 28-0 football game in the 2nd quarter. A comeback isn't impossible, but it is very unlikely.
If my numbers are right, hasn't there been less than half the number of hr's the last 3 years as there were in 09. 45 vs 22. A 3-0 game in the third this year felt like a 28-0 football game in the 2nd quarter. A comeback isn't impossible, but it is very unlikely.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:44 pm to AUCE05
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Viewers for the championship game was down 37% from last year.
While no one cares about the CWS unless your team is in it, the lower ratings probably had more to do with the amazing nba and NHL finals going on at the same time.
Posted on 6/28/13 at 12:41 am to reb13
The CWS is always going up against them. Also, I don't think the Stanley Cup had that big of an effect. CBB is more southern, and hockey is more northern.
Now for the finals, the teams in it could of had an effect. UCLA is in a huge market, but has very little draw I would think, considering their stadium. MSU does have loyal fans, but MS is a small state, and MSU is not a large fanbase.
Now for the finals, the teams in it could of had an effect. UCLA is in a huge market, but has very little draw I would think, considering their stadium. MSU does have loyal fans, but MS is a small state, and MSU is not a large fanbase.
Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:00 am to DaleDenton
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The stadium was designed during the "juiced bats" era, it was built this way to keep the CWS from continuing to be a home run derby and help the pitchers out.
it was designed during the 90's?
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LOL. Its like the epic "you don't like watching good defense" to justify the 9-6 offensive shitfest as being the "greatest game ever".
that would be a valid argument if every game was a low scoring shitfest. LSU and Bama were able to put up points against everyone else, i.e. 41 points vs. #3 ranked Arkansas
Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:15 am to dlc83
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But a neutral site should favor all styles of baseball to give all teams a fair shot at the championship. It was very frustrating watching them slap balls over the infielders. Fine, but give the other team a chance to make it up with homeruns.
Sorry I do not get this logic. It's almost like everyone saying hey since we can't bunt, steal and hit and run it isn't fair. The games were fine the team's that knew how to play baseball advanced the furthest. The excuses and complaints are getting ridiculous.
Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:16 am to labamafan
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Sorry I do not get this logic
no one expected you to
Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:35 am to labamafan
That's almost like saying TT under Leach, playing Wisconsin in a blizzard had no advantages or disadvantages.
Posted on 6/28/13 at 6:32 am to ProjectP2294
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Possibly. But I will never concede that a team that hits .248 for the season is the best team in college baseball.
You make an excellent point there.
Posted on 6/28/13 at 8:35 am to scrooster
Here's another thing about playing in Omaha,
All the locals leave at 8:00-9:00, it'll be 7th inning a tie ball game and one team is rallying back and yet half the stadium is leaving..
I understand that working people gotta get home and all but to me it's just a load of crock, don't go to the games and take up spots for fans when you're there as a casual observer only to leave when the game is at a pivotal moment. It just sounds like to me that even the people of that city aren't that interested in keeping the host spot for this tournament when they leave during a close ball game.
All the locals leave at 8:00-9:00, it'll be 7th inning a tie ball game and one team is rallying back and yet half the stadium is leaving..
I understand that working people gotta get home and all but to me it's just a load of crock, don't go to the games and take up spots for fans when you're there as a casual observer only to leave when the game is at a pivotal moment. It just sounds like to me that even the people of that city aren't that interested in keeping the host spot for this tournament when they leave during a close ball game.
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