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re: ESPN unhappy with the new Omaha stadium
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:21 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:21 pm to ProjectP2294
ucla didn't get burned by it but that is because they dont have any power hitters so the park completely favors their gay style. 9 sac bunts a game isn't baseball
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:21 pm to Pigfeet
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:22 pm to piggidyphish
College ball is roughly equal to single A.
there are independent leagues that have more talent.
the best players typically do not go to college.
never have and never will unless MLB decides it wants it that way.
there are independent leagues that have more talent.
the best players typically do not go to college.
never have and never will unless MLB decides it wants it that way.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:23 pm to heartbreakTiger
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9 sac bunts a game isn't baseball
Dont' tell this to juan pierre
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:23 pm to Dr RC
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I looked it up a couple days ago and TD Ameritrade is actually bigger than 21 MLB parks and about even with another 6 more.
thats a big arse ballpark.
To me the bats are a non issue. But when you have a stadium that many MLB players would have trouble hitting it out of there is a problem.
Yes, but with the juiced bats the park was the right size, pop-outs would be pop-outs, HRs would still be HRs. You have to remember the bats allowed check swing HRs back then.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:24 pm to heartbreakTiger
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ucla didn't get burned by it but that is because they dont have any power hitters so the park completely favors their gay style. 9 sac bunts a game isn't baseball
it kind of is.
not so much modern baseball but many teams used to play that way.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:24 pm to DaleDenton
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The NCAA is responsible for this problem, as it isn't just happening in one stadium, either go to a wood bat or liven the bats up a little, right now they are "dead" from end to end, a wood bat at least has a "sweet spot"..
won't fix it alone, they said during the CWS that there had never been an ball hit out to center field by any of the pro teams that have played there with the better balls and wooden bats. Which would indicate that unless they're going to go back to juiced bats for the CWS multiple steps would have to be taken in Omaha to overcome the soft ball, neutered bat, tradewinds constantly blowing directly in from center.
The orientation is the primary issue that causes problems. A well hit ball that should be into the power alley gaps will get held up by the wind allowing the outfielders to run underneath it. It appears that it's difficult to hit the gaps on a windy day and I have no idea how they're gonna fix it.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:25 pm to dlc83
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As we all know the new stadium faces in a direction where the wind is constantly blowing into the stadium
I went to six games. I think the wind was blowing in for two of them.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:26 pm to Dr RC
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College ball is roughly equal to single A.
And that park looked about the same size as the cubs A affliate in Daytona.
I think it'd make the transition from college to pros easier if the parks were the same size(therefore possibly not leaving college ball bereft of talent)
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:28 pm to piggidyphish
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(therefore possibly not leaving college ball bereft of talent)
again, college ball will never be loaded with talent unless MLB decides it wants it to be.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:28 pm to piggidyphish
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I think it'd make the transition from college to pros easier if the parks were the same size(therefore possibly not leaving college ball bereft of talent)
This doesn't really make any sense.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:29 pm to Dr RC
i love baseball but 9 sac bunts a game like ucla loves doing is boring as fricking shite. The best thing the ncaa can do is go to the minor league ball. ucla can keep playing their gay way of baseball but when their pitcher makes a mistake he would have paid for it.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:29 pm to ProjectP2294
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This doesn't really make any sense.
it's my opnion...you can just call it wrong. I'll be ok.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:31 pm to breazy
until omaha builds a new stadium we can just move it to alex box
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:31 pm to heartbreakTiger
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i love baseball but 9 sac bunts a game like ucla loves doing is boring as fricking shite
to you maybe.
I actually enjoy a good small ball team though I like teams that can bomb away too.
There are plenty of people who think a defensive struggle in football sucks and others who hate high scoring shootouts.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:32 pm to Dr RC
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again, college ball will never be loaded with talent unless MLB decides it wants it to be.
Well no one wants it to be except college baseball fans so i think we're going to be spinning a circle if we keep hammering that point
But back to the dimensions...i said daytona earlier, i meant kane County where the low A cubs team plays. They dimensions at that park are 335,400,335, is that roughly what the omaha park is? My point with that is if you say that college ball si the equivelant to A ball, and a Low A team has the same size park, would that then not seem that the park is the right size?
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:32 pm to piggidyphish
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it's my opnion...you can just call it wrong. I'll be ok.
That's fine if it's your opinion, but that doesn't change that it doesn't make any sense.
The size of a ballpark has no bearing on how easy or hard the transition from college to pro ball is.
Even if it did, being that only the CWS and Creighton's home games are played in that park, it wouldn't spark some national phenomenon of kids passing up 6 figure signing bonuses to pay part of their way in college.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:33 pm to piggidyphish
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I think it'd make the transition from college to pros easier if the parks were the same size(therefore possibly not leaving college ball bereft of talent)
Same size as? Different lengths to the fence and configurations of the outfield is what makes baseball, baseball.
It isn't just a bat problem, stadium problem, ball problem, etc, it is a combination by rule changes to give the pitching more of an advantage than they had, like most NCAA changes they went way to far in the one direction causing teams to play small ball to increase their chance of winning.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:36 pm to ProjectP2294
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The size of a ballpark has no bearing on how easy or hard the transition from college to pro ball is
if you're crushing the ball out of a college park and you go a farm team playing in a bigger park and you've got WTP i think at minimum it would be a better tool by which to evaluate a player when deciding where you're going to draft him.
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Even if it did, being that only the CWS and Creighton's home games are played in that park, it wouldn't spark some national phenomenon of kids passing up 6 figure signing bonuses to pay part of their way in college
Your'e right...i'm suggesting they make all parks bigger. But i don't like bloop and a blast ball.
For clarity, i don't want players to go to college. I want them to get to my team as soon as possible, learn our system and develop under the same philosphy with the same equipment.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:39 pm to dlc83
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I don't mind UCLA playing the slap and grind brand of baseball. But a neutral site should favor all styles of baseball to give all teams a fair shot at the championship. It was very frustrating watching them slap balls over the infielders. Fine, but give the other team a chance to make it up with homeruns.
and the thing is, if they do move the fences or change the ball it wont have any effect on UCLA. It will just even the playing field. They can keep playing small ball (which I have no problem with if that's your thing) and waiting on opponents to mess up. But with the changes that need to happen, everyone will have a shot
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