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re: ESPN unhappy with the new Omaha stadium
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:41 pm to heartbreakTiger
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:41 pm to heartbreakTiger
The CWS should be Played in a venue that is similar to what they play in all season. They don't extend the field to 110-120 yards during the BCSNCG. ESPN should be pissed and hopefully the city of Omaha will move the fences in. Just 5-10 feet and its a totally different CWS. And you won't see dipshit teams like UCLA in the finals.
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:41 pm to piggidyphish
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i think at minimum it would be a better tool by which to evaluate a player when deciding where you're going to draft him.
Why should the people efforting to make college baseball more popular give two shits about what makes it easier for pro scouts to do their job?
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For clarity, i don't want players to go to college.
Then maybe you shouldn't comment on college baseball.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:41 pm to Dr RC
its boring to most people, im all for a good all around game. im not saying bring back the 97 bats but when the game is dominated by bunting and a pitcher leaving mistake pitches up that turn into pop outs its an issue with the game. a minor league ball would all ucla to keep their style going but also when a pitcher makes a mistake it would make them pay. the dead ball and dead bat allow ucla to bunt and then it covers their mistake pitches up.
I want all the phases to be good, right now the dead bat and ball allows for too many pitchers that shouldn't be that good to be good.
I want all the phases to be good, right now the dead bat and ball allows for too many pitchers that shouldn't be that good to be good.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:42 pm to piggidyphish
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For clarity, i don't want players to go to college. I want them to get to my team as soon as possible, learn our system and develop under the same philosphy with the same equipment
Even then that's not the case, The MLB ball may well be different than the minor league ball, we won't and can't find out because they won't release the specs on the MLB ball.
Additionally, the further up the farm leagues and majors you go, the better the wood you get. That's not to say that a single a players bat was made from fence post bought at lowes, but it is also 4 quality steps removed from what they use in the show.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:43 pm to Ptolemy's
with the fences in 5-10 feet, plutko's bitch arse would have been driven from the game in like the fifth inning after giving up 4 solo shots. katz got one over and then ibarra put 2 mistakes on the track and stevenson tatted a mistake but ucla was saved by the park.
I wish paul would come out and demand changes to the bat or ball and moving fences in.
I wish paul would come out and demand changes to the bat or ball and moving fences in.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:43 pm to breazy
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The orientation is the primary issue that causes problems. A well hit ball that should be into the power alley gaps will get held up by the wind allowing the outfielders to run underneath it. It appears that it's difficult to hit the gaps on a windy day and I have no idea how they're gonna fix it.
THIS is my major concern. Not the lack of home runs, but the fact that its almost impossible to get a good shot to drop in the gap for extra bases.
Glad im not the only one
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:45 pm to ProjectP2294
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Then maybe you shouldn't comment on college baseball.
C'mon...it's all over the news. Turn on the radio they're tlaking about fans complaning, it's the only thread on here with anyone discussing it...didn't know i couldn't comment on it, and this was only a gripe thread.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:46 pm to piggidyphish
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:46 pm to Ptolemy's
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The CWS should be Played in a venue that is similar to what they play in all season. They don't extend the field to 110-120 yards during the BCSNCG
Sure, but they do play the final four in settings that are nothing like what is seen during the regular season and up to that point.
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Just 5-10 feet and its a totally different CWS.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:47 pm to breazy
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Additionally, the further up the farm leagues and majors you go, the better the wood you get. That's not to say that a single a players bat was made from fence post bought at lowes, but it is also 4 quality steps removed from what they use in the show.
What i was shooting for there...and it wasn't terribly clear (thats on me) is that there are still penlty of home runs at Low A kane county and no one is screaming for those fences to come in. (in relation to the comparison that college ball is the equivilant of A ball (which i know was another posters point)).
But as smotlz and maddux taught me...chicks dig the long ball. So i see the allure of moving the fences in.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:51 pm to piggidyphish
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there are still penlty of home runs at Low A kane county
Wooden bats have more of a trampoline effect than the bats currently used in college. So does the minor league ball. And the players in Kane County are paid professionals that do nothing other than play baseball.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:51 pm to piggidyphish
yes but in the CWS this year, the 8 teams combined could only muster 3 home runs in 14 games played there. That does no does not in any way play fair to a team with more power hitters than bunters. Nor is it conducive to overcoming a deficit without stringing together 7-8 hits/walks/HBP/whatever in a row in one inning.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:53 pm to ProjectP2294
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Wooden bats have more of a trampoline effect than the bats currently used in college. So does the minor league ball. And the players in Kane County are paid professionals that do nothing other than play baseball.
Just comparing the levels i was told they equate to. Getting paid or not it was said that the talent level was equivalent.
Also don't you use bats that are supposed to replicate wood bats? Isn't that part of the problem is that they took away the home run bats and replaced them with bats that are more comparable to wood?
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:54 pm to breazy
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That does no does not in any way play fair to a team with more power hitters than bunters.
Ehh i think power is more than just home runs. No gappers?
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:55 pm to piggidyphish
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Also don't you use bats that are supposed to replicate wood bats?
They're deader than wooden bats but have a bigger sweet spot.
Wooden bats compress better, but they're harder to square up.
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Getting paid or not it was said that the talent level was equivalent.
It was a fallacious statement. All of college baseball is not like Low A ball. You could make an argument that the SEC and a couple other power conferences are, but even that is a stretch.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:55 pm to piggidyphish
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Also don't you use bats that are supposed to replicate wood bats? Isn't that part of the problem is that they took away the home run bats and replaced them with bats that are more comparable to wood?
The mimic the dead part of the wooden bats, wooden bats have a sweet spot/live area that you can not replicate with aluminum, aluminum is consistent from end to end, which is now dead.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:56 pm to DaleDenton
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The mimic the dead part of the wooden bats, wooden bats have a sweet spot/live area that you can not replicate with aluminum, aluminum is consistent from end to end, which is now dead
so why'd they change it?
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:56 pm to piggidyphish
i agree, read my earlier post that addressed the wind holding up a ball that would have gotten into the power alley gaps, but instead floated longer allowing the outfielders to run underneath it.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:57 pm to breazy
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yes but in the CWS this year, the 8 teams combined could only muster 3 home runs in 14 games played there. That does no does not in any way play fair to a team with more power hitters than bunters. Nor is it conducive to overcoming a deficit without stringing together 7-8 hits/walks/HBP/whatever in a row in one inning.
#failstate didn't lose the series because of the park, they lost because UCLA is a better team.
Accept it. Live it.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:57 pm to breazy
That park also forces teams to change their style of play. If you are a power hitting team and that the way you have played all year it is difficult to just change all of that and play in an environment that does not favor you in any way.
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