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re: Do these "The U" documentaries even mention the Bama beat down?

Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by Calvin Candie
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:27 pm to
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Yeah because Oklahoma, Nebraska & FSU teams of that era, didn't have questionable players.


Miami was several years ahead, sir. These other schools were merely sheep following Miami's embarrassing lead.
Posted by puttytat
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:31 pm to
Well you know how gumps are....like to claim something that isn't theirs or make it up if it sounds good. It is comical seeing comments criticizing UM when Bama is one of the most corrupt programs in college sports.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:40 pm to
Wasn't anything embarrassing about what Miami did IMO.

They swagger hard as hell. They had more fun and success than anyone else in college football for a long time.

They likely partied harder, experienced more and fricked a he'll of a lot more beautiful women than any other players at any other school. They did it their way and probably have few regrets.

That is called WINNING at life in my book.
Posted by Calvin Candie
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:47 pm to
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Wasn't anything embarrassing about what Miami did IMO.



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They swagger hard


Anyone who uses the word "swagger" would see eye to eye with a program like Miami. Sad.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:51 pm to
It is also why you are, and will remain, a loser.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:52 pm to
You call it sad. I call it living life to the fullest. Winning.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:54 pm to
I like how the real losers like to call the real winners losers because they are out enjoying life more.

Jealousy. Such a basic emotion. Some like to see others having fun and showing it, others are the misery loves company camp.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:05 pm to
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Wasn't anything embarrassing about what Miami did IMO.

They swagger hard as hell. They had more fun and success than anyone else in college football for a long time.

They likely partied harder, experienced more and fricked a he'll of a lot more beautiful women than any other players at any other school. They did it their way and probably have few regrets.

That is called WINNING at life in my book.


Besides all of those robberies that they admitted to on the first 30/30.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:11 pm to
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They show/mention the 40-3 beatdown from LSU in the Peach bowl.

think they were still a perennial top 10 team till this point.

Still plenty of talent in south Florida, just need a coach that can get it and put it to use.
Posted by BoogerSykes
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:50 pm to
Phuck all the hate, those 2000-2001 teams were nasty. The amount of hall of fame players on one team is nuts. It really wasn't fair the amount of talent they had. I thought the documentary was pretty good.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:10 pm to
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The only issue, or humor, I found was on the first one when they show Lamar Thomas talking about how much better they were than everyone else, then show a picture of the 1990 Sugar Bowl and a distraught looking Alabama player. Then Thomas gloats about how good they were.

Hilarious. Lamar Thomas.


Dude was and is a total arse hat. To hear him talk, you'd think he was a HOF'er. He wasn't all that good in the league and no one exactly thinks of him in the same class as the great WRs that came out of the U.
Posted by Tigerman97
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:11 pm to
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Still plenty of talent in south Florida, just need a coach that can get it and put it to use.



The drug trade that funded most of their ability to maintain that talent base and keep it in the "State of Miami" has shifted to other areas of the country. Many SEC schools have captains of industry funding their programs. Miami had thugs, gangsters and drug runners…no doubt it affected the nature of the players.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:13 pm to
Yeah that 30for30 reminded me a lot of the Cocaine Cowboy's documentaries.
Posted by Tigerman97
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:16 pm to
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Yeah that 30for30 reminded me a lot of the Cocaine Cowboy's documentaries.



Same director. Billy Corbin The "U 2" suggested their latest run was fueled by the White Collar Fraud based out of Miami, I always knew cocaine funded the first run, but I hadn't made the mental connection about the money crimes in the late 90's. They have little to no booster support. Former players actually kicked in money back in the late 80's and early 90's something you don't see at other schools.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 7:19 pm
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:24 pm to
Ehrmahgawd no ones talking about Bama
Posted by 1234567VFL
Nashville
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:54 pm to
The Sugar VOLS kicked the U arse in 1985 when nobody even ackonwledge us, they thought we were chicken shite, they learned to never underestimate the Volunteers!!!!!!!!


Attack!, Attack! Attack! always Attack!


J.Majors pregame speech before the 1985 Sugar bowl.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:19 pm to
Dude, your correlations are a bit much. You are trying to say money pouring into Miami makes the U good at football. Some of it finds its way to the program I'm sure. But Luther cambell made his money in music. And it isn't just some straight correlation of a wealthy Miami equals dominant football.

But if that is what you believe, get ready for the greatest run ever seen. The city of Miami has more money pouring into it right now than it has in quite a while. Brickell, the Gables and downtown are going through another boom and are into the 3rd year of it now. Real estate is going through the roof and rents are rising at 20% a year. Tens of thousands of condos are currently under construction. The current levels are foreign investment is at record highs here. Money is pouring into the area surrounding the U.

Guess another dynasty is imminent.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:25 pm to
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Dude, your correlations are ridiculous. You are trying to say money pouring into Miami makes the U good at football.

Ok, that is laughable. But if that is what you believe, get ready for the greatest run ever seen. The city of Miami has more money pouring into it right now than it has in quite a while. Brickell, the Gables and downtown are going through another boom and are into the 3rd year of it now. Real estate is going through the roof and rents are rising at 20% a year. Tens of thousands of condos are currently under construction. The current levels are foreign investment is at record highs here. Money is pouring into the area surrounding the U.

Guess another dynasty is imminent.


You and I know the landscape of CFB has changed dramatically over the last 10 years. I am not sure Miami will ever have another run like that again with the schools current stance on the program. What I was suggesting is the school doesn't have the ties to "Old Money" and relied on the johnny come lately of those two eras. If you don't believe the Cocaine Cash influx of of the late 70's through the early 90's affected Miami football then your head must be in the sand. The Shapiro guy was connected to the money crimes of the late 90's, he may have acted alone. I don't know but what I suggested is based on facts.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:35 pm to
I edited my post. Some of what you say is true. Certainly the part about not having a strong booster base. Miami is an expensive private school for smart people at the end of the day.

I've seen the cocaine cowboys and all of that. I don't think the cash from the drug trade is what started the 80s dynasty. I think it was Schnellenberger going into the ghettos and selling the kids on an idea. Then Jimmy Johnson building the real dynasty. Luther Cambells money from rap was the icing that put them over the top into the Erickson era.

And Shapiro and the white collar crime money didn't do Jack. That was well after Butch Davis got the players in 97-99 that made up those great 2000-2003 teams.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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45656 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:39 pm to
By the way, Shapiro grew his money from 2003-2009. 2004 was when his company started to really take off and the ponzie scheme.

Miami football was already in decline when they started seeing his money. That was into the Shannon era.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 8:40 pm
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