re: Do Arkansas fans want to leave the SEC

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we're rivals with Ole Miss,Auburn and Alabama

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Alabama fans don't see LSU as a rival.

LSU is a big game, but our rivals are auburn and ut.

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Alabama fans don't see LSU as a rival.

LSU is a big game, but our rivals are auburn and ut.

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I've met plenty of Alabama fans (old and young) that view LSU as a rivalry game.

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If Mizzou leaves, the Big12 is in serious trouble. Show me one school that makes sense to add to the Big 12 that brings everything that Mizzou brings as far as tv markets, and being a big public university with a big fanbase.

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Arkansas is the answer to this question and it wouldn't be a lose/lose for the Arkansas program. Y'all fit the bill for the Big 12.

10 years from now you mofo's will hate us plenty.

LSU is not one of our rivals

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But Arkansas has no true rivals in the SEC and it still feels funny having y'all around (imo). Arkansas belongs in the Big 12 and I believe would have much more success in the Big 12 (instead of being a middle of the road team in the SEC)

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This really shows a lack of information on your part about Arkansas' history in the SWC. We had no rival there either. Sure, WE thought of texas as a rival, but they were more worried about OU and eATMe. Sound familiar? We want a rivalry with LSU, so we invent a boot, but they care more about OM or Bama.

There's actually more potential right now for developing a true rivalry with OM than we have probably ever had with any other team. The Nutt thing gives that series juice. Plus, we have a history of playing those guys in some pretty heated contests, dating back several decades.

For the sake of argument (ONLY) let's pro and con the Ark to the big 12, shall we?

Pros:
1. Less travel time to some locations, like Stillwater, Columbia, and Norman
2. Inferior competition provides better opportunity to win.

Cons:
1. Significantly less money in big 12
2. No ESPN tv contract where every game is on tv
3. Lubbock
4. big 12 fans less informed and less passionate
5. Chicks in Manhattan KS, Lincoln NE, Columbia MO, etc not same caliber as chicks in Oxford, Athens, Auburn, etc.
6. No Golden Girls in Big 12
7. We play a game at JerryWorld each year so we are re-establishing a recruiting presence there without having to join their inferior league
8. Playing in the SEC gives us a chance to play a top-10 team about every other week. In big 12 you're lucky to get that shot once a season.
9. Lubbock

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3. Lubbock

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Who does Carolina have a rivalry with?

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Clemson, obviously. Along with in-conference rivalries with UGA and UTe. We have been playing UGA regularly well before we joined the SEC.

We don't have much of a rivalry with y'all, even though the Hawgs are our permanent West opponent. That is because, with the distance between the two schools, we have little interaction between our fanbases.

Arkansas has no rival comparable to Carolina's rivalry with Clemson.

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This really shows a lack of information on your part about Arkansas' history in the SWC. We had no rival there either. Sure, WE thought of texas as a rival, but they were more worried about OU and eATMe. Sound familiar? We want a rivalry with LSU, so we invent a boot, but they care more about OM or Bama.

There's actually more potential right now for developing a true rivalry with OM than we have probably ever had with any other team. The Nutt thing gives that series juice. Plus, we have a history of playing those guys in some pretty heated contests, dating back several decades.

For the sake of argument (ONLY) let's pro and con the Ark to the big 12, shall we?

Pros:
1. Less travel time to some locations, like Stillwater, Columbia, and Norman
2. Inferior competition provides better opportunity to win.

Cons:
1. Significantly less money in big 12
2. No ESPN tv contract where every game is on tv
3. Lubbock
4. big 12 fans less informed and less passionate
5. Chicks in Manhattan KS, Lincoln NE, Columbia MO, etc not same caliber as chicks in Oxford, Athens, Auburn, etc.
6. No Golden Girls in Big 12
7. We play a game at JerryWorld each year so we are re-establishing a recruiting presence there without having to join their inferior league
8. Playing in the SEC gives us a chance to play a top-10 team about every other week. In big 12 you're lucky to get that shot once a season.
9. Lubbock

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Well Said!!!

This really shows a lack of information on your part about Arkansas' history in the SWC. We had no rival there either. Sure, WE thought of texas as a rival, but they were more worried about OU and eATMe. Sound familiar?

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We want a rivalry with LSU, so we invent a boot, but they care more about OM or Bama.

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So you make up a trophy and a name for the game. Sounds extremely weak.....

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So you make up a trophy and a name for the game. Sounds extremely weak.....

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Not nearly as weak as your reading comprehension. The whole point of the post was that Arkansas DOES NOT have a true rival in the SEC, NOR did we have one in the SWC. The whole point of the post, Stephen Hawking, is that a trophy and a name do not a rivalry make.

Now, one fanbase running off a coach while a school in a border state snatches him up can be the stuff of rivalry. A long history in a closely contested series can be the stuff of rivalry. But all of that takes time to build up. It's possible a nice feud with OM is brewing, but we will never break the old guard of rivalries that have built up for generations like LSU v OM has.

As for LSU, we can hope to fuel a good "new" rivalry with LSU. I think we have done some things in recent years to help that along. The Miracle on Markham (v1 and v2) has helped. LSU beating us to give us our 1 SEC loss in 2006 was a good step. Miles popping off about us, causing DMac to "brang dat Wuud" helped. Any time LSU and Arkansas can either meet in that last game to decide the West, or one plays spoiler to the other, then it helps build the rivalry.

Still, Arkansas will just never have the kind of rival that exists like UA/AU, ClemPson/USC, tx/OU, FU/UGA. It's just not ever going to happen.