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re: Dethroning the SEC!!!
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:35 pm to Sevendust912
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:35 pm to Sevendust912
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I was far from impressed with Florida's QB play
And we were far from impressed with Okielites defensive play....so what's your point?
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:37 pm to DawgsLife
I predicted that Oregon would lose to LSU. We just didn't have it in the front 7 of our defense. We were replacing 5 starters in the front 7 and we had 3 serviceable ILBS (2 spots in the 3-4) and both our NTs were banged up for that game.
Fast forward to today, Oregon is a much more talented team.
I just don't know if anyone is as good as Bama. Personally, I see CFB as Bama and the rest, including the SEC. There are a number of teams that can go toe to toe with Georgia, Florida, aTm, et al. and even the 2013 version of LSU.
However, the real question is: can someone dethrone Bama?
Fast forward to today, Oregon is a much more talented team.
I just don't know if anyone is as good as Bama. Personally, I see CFB as Bama and the rest, including the SEC. There are a number of teams that can go toe to toe with Georgia, Florida, aTm, et al. and even the 2013 version of LSU.
However, the real question is: can someone dethrone Bama?
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:39 pm to DawgsLife
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SouCar
Georgia
Yeah, those two have done so well OOC recently.
Who cares about capabilities when you know they won't be met?
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:40 pm to DawgsLife
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And we were far from impressed with Okielites defensive play....so what's your point?
I would make that pretty much every Big 12 team. I am trying to remember the last time a top Big 12 team shut out a top or mid level SEC offense?
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:45 pm to bisonduck
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Stanford was a conference champ. If you can't win your own fricking conference should you be national champs? The fricking logic there is like arguing with your wife on her period. SO CIRCULAR.
A conference championship provision only serves to give the appearance of objectivity; however, it's flawed. Not all conferences are equal. The SEC is the best and deepest. Every other conference only has 2 or 3 great programs while the SEC has 4 minimum.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:49 pm to Gardevoir
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Yeah, those two have done so well OOC recently
Oh, really? Tell me how we've done OOC lately. We won our bowl game and we gave Alabama all they could handle. I mean, some Bama fans act like they never went through some tough times. When you guys are successful you are very successful. When you are bad you are very bad. Need we look at Bama's record the 10 years prior to Saban?
Besides...if you brought those guys into the SEC we would be playing IN the conference, now wouldn't we?
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:52 pm to bisonduck
No problem with you. The other guy got me riled.
Oregon has a great offense, but it is high risk high reward. When it clicks it clicks VERY well. When it fires blanks....uh oh. Great defenses make a great offense fire blanks....which is what scares me about UGA this year.
Oregon has a great offense, but it is high risk high reward. When it clicks it clicks VERY well. When it fires blanks....uh oh. Great defenses make a great offense fire blanks....which is what scares me about UGA this year.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:56 pm to DawgsLife
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Oh, really? Tell me how we've done OOC lately.
You beat an overrated Nebraska in the Capital One Bowl. The score was tied 31-31 at the end of the 3rd quarter. I don't care about the records your team set in that bowl, 66-38 & 70-31 >>> 45-31 4th quarter pull away.
In 2011, you lost to Boise State and Michigan State.
Talking about the times before Alabama's recent success won't affect me.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:59 pm to Gardevoir
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Every other conference only has 2 or 3 great programs while the SEC has 4 minimum.
I might go a step further
ACC was football suck and has added good teams but killed them. Florida State (.5) + ACC#2 (.25) + ACC #3 (.25) = 1
B1G was Ohio State (1) + Michigan (1) = 2
B1G is basically Ohio State (1) + Michigan (.5) + B1G#3 3rd team in given year (.5) = 2
B12 was Oklahoma (1) + Nebraska (1) + Texas (.5) + B12#4 (.5) = 3
B12 is Oklahoma (1) + Texas (.5) + 3rd team in given year (.5) = 2
PAC was Southern Cal (1) + PAC #2 (.5) = 1.5
SEC was Alabama (1) + Tennessee (1) + Georgia (.5) + LSU (.5) + Florida (.5) + Auburn (.5) = 4
SEC is Alabama (2) + Tennessee (0) + Georgia (.5) + LSU (.5) + Florida (.5) + Auburn (.5) + South Carolina (.5) + TAMU (.5) = 5
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:02 pm to DawgsLife
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And we were far from impressed with Okielites defensive play....so what's your point?
The point is that the "Okie Lite" defense had some playmakers and forced turnovers. Jeff Driskel was so bad that there is no way they score more than 21-24 points. OSU would have covered that by halftime.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:07 pm to DawgsLife
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Oregon has a great offense, but it is high risk high reward. When it clicks it clicks VERY well. When it fires blanks....uh oh. Great defenses make a great offense fire blanks....which is what scares me about UGA this year.
UGA's lack of experience on the defensive side is what has me bearish on them. Oregon has 8 returning starters and the DL has been the best unit on the team, even over the #1 or #2 rated secondary (depending on source). Arik Armstead's hype has reached record levels - more than De'Anthony Thomas or Marcus Mariota. Things like 1st pick of the draft in 2015. Gotta love of the offseason.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:07 pm to CarolinaSoCocky
I'm still just asking myself why the subject line required three exclamation marks rather than one question mark?
Seems like "Dethroning the SEC?" would have worked far better and been more apropos for the subject matter contained herein.
Anyway, no ... Stanford will not beat the SEC Champ. Harbaugh made them the flavor of the decade but Stanford is not even likely to get past Oregon, SoCal or UCLA this year and certainly not all three.
Seems like "Dethroning the SEC?" would have worked far better and been more apropos for the subject matter contained herein.
Anyway, no ... Stanford will not beat the SEC Champ. Harbaugh made them the flavor of the decade but Stanford is not even likely to get past Oregon, SoCal or UCLA this year and certainly not all three.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:08 pm to CarolinaSoCocky
If anyone does it, it will be Oregon or Clemson.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:16 pm to Cockopotamus
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I like Stanford's team and coach. They're definitely on the short of teams that can beat the SEC champion
No. Not if the better team wins the SECCG.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:17 pm to elposter
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This is the wrong kind of team to "dethrone" the SEC in my opinion. Trying to match up power on power with most SEC teams usually doesn't work.
Right. It's why I think BB will fail at Arky. He wants to play smash mouth football against teams that recruit better than him and play smash mouth better.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:18 pm to bisonduck
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I love that Stanford plays physical. The Oregon Dline will be the most physical dline in the Pac - 12.
Said by you every single year.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Said by you every single year.
We have also won our conference the last 3/4 years studly mudly.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:20 pm to scrooster
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Stanford will not beat the SEC Champ. Harbaugh made them the flavor of the decade but Stanford is not even likely to get past Oregon, SoCal or UCLA this year and certainly not all three.
I think the bigger issue is they are trying to fill the crater left by Souther Cal especially after their meltdown last fall. Talking heads are lemmings so when the main driver fails they put up the next in line. Problem is neither the Cardinal or the Ducks have a crystal football yet to give them the full legitimacy the Trojans have enjoyed for decades.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:21 pm to bisonduck
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And what the frick happens to Stanford if they beat ND? That changes everything. Glad we didn't have to suffer through that as CFB fans.
I think I would have given up all my SEC solidarity if that happened. The bowl season is for playing other conferences. It's been like that for 50 years prior to 2011.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:22 pm to DawgsLife
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Hard to argue that point. Florida lost only to us, and that game could have gone either way.
You got curb stomped. Gone either way? Yeah
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