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re: Dethroning the SEC!!!

Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:30 pm to
Stanford was a conference champ. If you can't win your own fricking conference should you be national champs? The fricking logic there is like arguing with your wife on her period. SO CIRCULAR.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 4:32 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:32 pm to
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However, Bama already lost to LSU and someone else should've been given a shot. That is just my opinion.



No problem with your opinion. It is a legitimate one and very valid. My argument is that Alabama's kicker had a HORRIBLE off night. had he been kicking normally, Alabama probably would have won the first meeting. ALSO, Alabama proved how good they were in the second game. If it had gone your preferred way, the best team in the country would not have played for the Natty.

As for Florida....I'm not sold they had the top 1 or two teams in the country last year. BUT, they easily could have been undefeated at the end of the regular season. Ironically, if they had, they would have played Bama in the SECCG, and that would have (probably) settled it as far as the Natty question, one way or the other.

This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 4:33 pm
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
2316 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:32 pm to
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Stanford was a conference champ. If you can't win your own fricking conference should you be national champs? The fricking logic there is like arguing with your wife on her period. SO CIRCULAR.



Florida was more qualified than any one loss team last year besides Bama. Don't see how that wouldn't at all factor in to the equation either. So because one team plays in a vastly superior conference, they should be punished? That doesn't hold a lot of weight to it. A lot of the backlash on Florida is they were an ugly team, and there is simply no denying that. But their resume spoke for itself.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 4:34 pm
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:33 pm to
It does hold a lot of weight...you can't lose your conference and call yourself national champs. It's stupid.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 4:34 pm
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
2316 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:34 pm to
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It does hold a lot of weight...you can't lose your conference and call youself national champs. It's stupid.



Well you can if you beat your conference champs in a championship game. Actually makes perfect sense. Especially if you tied records with them and had yet to play them.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:35 pm to
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If you can't win your own fricking conference should you be national champs?


And if all the other conference champions had lost two games should THEY be the National Champions? I think the best two teams should play for the National Championship, no matter what conference they come from.

What if there had been a playoff system back then and Alabama and LSU had ended up beating their opponents and ended up playing each other for the Natty. Would you have had a problem with it then?
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:36 pm to
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Would you have had a problem with it then?


I think you should only get in the playoffs if you are conference champ. Problem solved.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:36 pm to
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you can't lose your conference and call yourself national champs.


Really? And if you are Notre Dame and are not in a conference? I mean, they don't have to play a Conference Championship game, so they have one less tough game to play than everybody else. Should they have played for the Natty last year? I mean..we all know what happened there, don't we?
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:38 pm to
I think any team that played Bama last year with them getting 45 days to prep and heal, would've gotten throttled by Bama including Georgia.

ND totally deserved to be in the MNC.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:38 pm to
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I think you should only get in the playoffs if you are conference champ. Problem solved.



So, you don't think the two best teams in the nation should be allowed in if they are from the same conference?
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
2316 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:39 pm to
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I think you should only get in the playoffs if you are conference champ. Problem solved.



Says the guy in a very weak conference.
When you play in a conference with 6 teams in the top 15. Then come talk to us about this kind of thing. Until then keep playing 1-2 hard teams a year and thinking you deserve an equal table. You don't. When Oregon faces five top 15 programs in one season, come talk to UF. Until then, we should get the benefit when we've done far more than you.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:41 pm to
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So, you don't think the two best teams in the nation should be allowed in if they are from the same conference?


That is right. I think determining the 2nd best team last year is VERY subjective. It would've been Florida whom shite the bed against UL. You tell me who was the 2nd best team was last year?
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7040 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:42 pm to
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You tell me who was the 2nd best team was last year?

It sure the hell wasn't Oregon.
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
7284 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:43 pm to
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Serious question. Has Stanford played a SEC team in the BCS MNC era?


No

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When was the last time Stanford played a SEC team in football?


1978 Stanford beat Georgia in the Bluebonnet Bowl
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:43 pm to
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I think any team that played Bama last year with them getting 45 days to prep and heal, would've gotten throttled by Bama including Georgia.

ND totally deserved to be in the MNC.


No. They shouldn't. They had 45 days to prepare for the game, too. That is just faulty logic. There were several teams that played Alabama well last year. If Notre Dame can't prepare for a big game, then they don't deserve to be there. You honestly believe they had the second best team in the country?

Alabama beat Michigan 41-14 in the first game of the season. They beat Notre Dame 42-14 in the last. In between several SEC teams played them closely. That doesn't tell you anything?

Alabama and LSU have BOTH played top teams from around the country early in the season and beaten them soundly. Right at this moment ion time the SEC is the best. As I said..doesn't mean it will stay that way, but it is this way right now.

Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:43 pm to
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It sure the hell wasn't Oregon.


Who the frick was it then?
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
2316 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:45 pm to
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That is right. I think determining the 2nd best team last year is VERY subjective. It would've been Florida whom shite the bed against UL. You tell me who was the 2nd best team was last year?



The argument for Oklahoma State was they had a stronger SOS than Bama.

Florida had the top SOS in the nation.

Why should Oklahoma State be allowed in, but not Florida?

Seems completely unfair to me.
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
2316 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:46 pm to
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I think any team that played Bama last year with them getting 45 days to prep and heal, would've gotten throttled by Bama including Georgia.

ND totally deserved to be in the MNC.


I never said they didn't. I just said if the refs didn't screw Stanford.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:49 pm to
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The argument for Oklahoma State was they had a stronger SOS than Bama.

Florida had the top SOS in the nation.

Why should Oklahoma State be allowed in, but not Florida?

Seems completely unfair to me.


Because UF was ugly last year. (2006 was ugly too... we all know what happened against Ohio State)
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:51 pm to
Last year? Man...it would have been interesting to see Oregon play Alabama. I think you guys were a better team than Notre Dame. I would have liked to see Georgia play Oregon, too. That would have been interesting. If I had paired the bowls up it would have gone something like this:

Alabama-Oregon (National Championship)
Georgia-Stanford
Texas A&M-Clemson
Florida-Notre Dame
SouCar-Michigan (That was a good game!)
LSU-Kansas St.

I think those would have been more interesting games.
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