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re: Dee Milliner, The Next Bama Bust?

Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:22 am to
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:22 am to
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Dee Milliner, The Next Bama Bust?
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All LSU... ALL THE TIME.

Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:25 am to
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LSU fan
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Bama
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5:01AM
Lol
Posted by RedElephants
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:26 am to
I care about the NFL...but I couldn't care less about how a former Bama player is doing. When they leave Alabama, if they aren't a Steeler, I don't care enough about it to let another SEC fan rustle my jimmies.


....but since LSU fans can no longer troll them while they are in school, might as well follow their NFL career in hopes to see them fail there. What's Bama's win streak at over LSU now?

Posted by Restomod
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:27 am to
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Only LSU fans root for other teams players to fail in the pros. Pathetic.



And only Bama fans murder one another after a loss...
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:29 am to
There have been many. What's one more for the old Sabanator?
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:31 am to
I bet LSU fans check NFL box scores just to figure out how many bama players had a bad game.
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look son Eddie Lacy had 3 YPC today, this improves our quality of life
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:31 am to
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There have been many.


Name them.

There have been more Pro-Bowlers than there have been busts.

Trent Richardson is the only straight up bust I can think of off the top of my head. Rolando was headed to Bustville, but he came back and was the anchor to the Cowboys' defense last year.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:31 am to
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They played the same SEC teams that the other SEC teams played. Were the other DBs in the league not tested either? Maybe the SEC didn't throw it around like the Big-12 or some of the west coast teams do, but it's ridiculous to think that NFL scouts aren't aware of the quality on the competition each prospect faces....imo, your analogy is flawed.


Which proves it is a risk drafting someone who hasn't been tested. Saban had the reputation of producing the DBs, that is why they were drafted so high. You saw where Collins slipped to the second round. Years earlier, he would have been a top 15 pick based on Sabans reputation with the GMs.
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:33 am to
I'm not sure who they picked off. My only point was that saying they only played four NFL QBs doesn't mean much until we see how many corners usually play.
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:33 am to
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Damn every check in that picture went to a bust except Eddie.

DJ Fluker a bust? Played in 31 games, started 31 games...don't see how he could be considered a bust...


Warmack is a bust? He started every game the last two years and I think he missed less than 10 PLAYS for the Titans last year.

Quinton Dial is a bust? He was a fifth round draft pick and played in 14 games last year. Compare him to another 5th round DE pick. Oh lets say Lavar Edwards who played in 10 games and was cut by the Cowboys before the season last year.

Nico Johnson is a bust? He was a 4th round pick who played in the last 12 games for the Bengals games last year. Lets compare him to, oh I don't know, maybe the player selected four picks before him, Sam Montgomery. Montgomery was signed and released by two teams and coincidentally was a teammate of Nico Johnson last year. Montgomery didn't see the field once last year.

Barrett Jones is a bust? Hmm maybe. Dealt with some injuries and has played in a couple of games but still on the Rams roster so we shall see.


Got any other pearls of wisdom big guy?



Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:35 am to
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You saw where Collins slipped to the second round.


Has more to do with the value of Safeties dropping significantly over the last few years. WalterFootball.com ranks safeties as part of Tier 4 out of 5 in value in the NFL. They're considered to be on the same Tier of value as Right Tackles and nose guards.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 9:38 am
Posted by OldPete
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:37 am to
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we saw what happens to it when they play a passing Offense the last two years

The last 2 years, I'd agree with you...but it's not so much just a passing offense they struggle with, as much as a spread team (with a mobile QB)...and I don't think Bama's had a CB that was at Milliner's (or Kirkpatrick's) level these past 2 years...

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During their playing time, the only NFL caliber passers they played against were Cam, JFF and maybe Murray and Mettenberger.

Granted but how many college CBs plays against more than that many NFL caliber QBs in their college careers? I'd guess that number would be few...
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:37 am to
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The fact that Milliner hasn't been great when healthy doesn't help.


62 tackles, 3 ints, 19 passes defended in 16 games

64 tackles, 2 ints, 13 passes defended in 16 games

one of these is dee milliner's first 16 games (which is how many hes played in total), one of these is patrick peterson's first 16 games. which do you think is which?

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:38 am to
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62 tackles, 3 ints, 19 passes defended in 16 games

64 tackles, 2 ints, 13 passes defended in 16 games

one of these is dee milliner's first 16 games (which is how many hes played in total), one of these is patrick peterson's first 16 games. which do you think is which?


Oh shite...
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:40 am to
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Has more to do with the value of Safeties dropping significantly over the last few years. WalterFootball.com ranks safeties as part of Tier 4 out of 5 in value in the NFL. They're considered to be on the same Tier as Right Tackles and nose guards.


Run stopping afeties that struggle in coverage are a dying breed in the NFL. They are like fullbacks. If you want to play safety in the NFL nowadays, you better be able to stay with a TE in coverage.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:40 am to
Mark Barron is the textbook definition of a bust. Top 10 pick, already traded by the team who drafted him, and the Rams recently declined to pick his option for his 5th year
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:42 am to
Well go start a thread on him. This one is about Dee. One bust at a time please.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:42 am to
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62 tackles, 3 ints, 19 passes defended in 16 games

64 tackles, 2 ints, 13 passes defended in 16 games


These are meaningless without the number of attempts made in their direction, along with the number of TDs given up. Do you have those numbers?
Posted by Bamad
Calera, AL
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:42 am to
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62 tackles, 3 ints, 19 passes defended in 16 games

64 tackles, 2 ints, 13 passes defended in 16 games

one of these is dee milliner's first 16 games (which is how many hes played in total), one of these is patrick peterson's first 16 games. which do you think is which?



Dude, you are fricking spot on, however this is like a flame to a moth....
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:42 am to
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I'm not sure who they picked off. My only point was that saying they only played four NFL QBs doesn't mean much until we see how many corners usually play.


Then we both agree it is a gamble to draft an SEC Corner the last 7 years. It is one that hasn't worked out for Cinn or NYJ so far.
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