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Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:24 am to OldPete
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.I recall Herbstreit asking several times that game why ND kept throwing at one of the best cover corners in the nation, especially since they weren't having any success when throwing his way.
They were trying to do this:
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:26 am to OldPete
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In his last year at Bama (2012), Milliner was a shutdown corner...opposing teams may have thrown his way, but they didn't have much success...he was tied for first in the nation with passes defended (22) that year. And in the BCS game against ND, Golson threw at him a lot, but with very little success...I recall Herbstreit asking several times that game why ND kept throwing at one of the best cover corners in the nation, especially since they weren't having any success when throwing his way.
No matter what he does in the NFL, it doesn't change the fact that he was a shutdown corner in his last year at Bama...
Both he and Dre Kirkpatrick were call shutdown corners, but Milliner had 2 INTs his Sr year and Dre had 2 INTs his entire career. Both were good against the run, but if you look at the SEC during that period, there were very few passing QBs.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:26 am to Restomod
Welp that's tough luck. Nfl isn't for everyone.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:38 am to Restomod
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Restomod
IYO, why do you think LSU struggles so much with these overrated Bama players? Two of the last four matchups have been total blowouts in favor of Alabama. This past year with our least talented team in years, LSU still couldn't come up with a W.
Maybe we are too hard on UGA. LSU is the true Underachiever U.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:42 am to bherm1988
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Damn every check in that picture went to a bust except Eddie.
DJ Fluker a bust? Played in 31 games, started 31 games...don't see how he could be considered a bust...
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:51 am to chattabama
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IYO, why do you think LSU struggles so much with these overrated Bama players? Two of the last four matchups have been total blowouts in favor of Alabama. This past year with our least talented team in years, LSU still couldn't come up with a W.
Maybe we are too hard on UGA. LSU is the true Underachiever U.
Blowout?
Was never a runaway game, LSU was leading in the 4th the last few games. Last year went to overtime.
Easy, LSU defense became highly predictable. Saban and the rest of the country knew what Chavis would scheme in final 2minutes.
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:54 am to Irons Puppet
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Both he and Dre Kirkpatrick were call shutdown corners, but Milliner had 2 INTs his Sr year and Dre had 2 INTs his entire career.
INTs are not the be-all end-all for DBs...the guy who led the NCAA in INTs last year (14) was drafted in the 7th round...and Darrelle Revis had the same number of INTs in his last year at Pitt...and no, I'm not arguing that Milliner is in Revis' class (he's not), just showing that number of INTs does not necessarily correlate to coverage ability...
Passes defended is a more respected stat for corners and Milliner had those in spades while at Bama.
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:55 am to Restomod
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Easy, LSU defense became highly predictable. Saban and the rest of the country knew what Chavis would scheme in final 2minutes.
It's going to be funny when the same thing happens with Steele instead of Chavis. You are kidding yourself if you think Steele will be anywhere near as good as Chavis. Spoiler alert: he's not. In fact, Steele wasn't even our best linebacker coach under CNS.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:57 am to Restomod
Why isn't this thread on the More Sports Board?
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:05 am to OldPete
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Passes defended is a more respected stat for corners and Milliner had those in spades.
That is why I thought both Milliner and Dre were question marks at the next level. During their playing time, the only NFL caliber passers they played against were Cam, JFF and maybe Murray and Mettenberger. Bama's secondary has been given more credit the last five years due to that competition, we saw what happens to it when they play a passing Offense the last two years.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:05 am to Restomod
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All LSU... ALL THE TIME.
Rent is due baw.
Soooooo you start a thread about a Bama player, a TAMU fan responds with a similar tale of an LSU player and HE is the one obsessing?
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:12 am to Irons Puppet
That's four drafted NFL qbs. How many do you think the average drafted CB faces in CFB?
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:16 am to Patton
It's a shame Fluker had to take a pay cut.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:16 am to Restomod
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It has been 20 years, 9 months, 4 weeks, 28 days since Texas A&M beat LSU in football.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:19 am to Patton
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That's four drafted NFL qbs. How many do you think the average drafted CB faces in CFB?
4 QBs out of 39-42 Played. Of those drafted Cam might be the only real starter of the bunch. My point is the SEC was not a QB league during that period. Who were the QBs that Millner and DK got interceptions against ?
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:19 am to Irons Puppet
quote:They played the same SEC teams that the other SEC teams played. Were the other DBs in the league not tested either? Maybe the SEC didn't throw it around like the Big-12 or some of the west coast teams do, but it's ridiculous to think that NFL scouts aren't aware of the quality on the competition each prospect faces....imo, your analogy is flawed.
That is why I thought both Milliner and Dre were question marks at the next level. During their playing time, the only NFL caliber passers they played against were Cam, JFF and maybe Murray and Mettenberger. Bama's secondary has been given more credit the last five years due to that competition, we saw what happens to it when they play a passing Offense the last two years.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:20 am to Restomod
Only LSU fans root for other teams players to fail in the pros. Pathetic.
Oh and 4 in a row.
Oh and 4 in a row.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:20 am to Tyler9258
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It's a shame Fluker had to take a pay cut.
Hell, we tried to bribe the NCAA to give him 4 more years of eligibility, but sometimes they have to move on.
Don't worry though, Flukers pay is being put to good use with our current starting LT.
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