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re: Comparing the 2013 SEC coaching hires Bielema, Jones, & Gus.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:06 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:06 pm to BHMKyle
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And all these Arkansas fans trying to say Bert's situation was far worse than Gus' at the time of being hired, yet not one can explain how just one of the six most widely read preseason magazines back in 2013 projected Auburn to finish ahead of Arkansas in the standings.
It's been explained 1,000 times you fricking moron.
The main reason Chizik failed in 2012 was his switch from the Malzahn spread offense to a pro-style offense led by Loeffler. The players they had recruited weren't suited for Loeffler's offense. Those offensive players had all been recruited by Malzahn for his scheme. Had Chizik stuck with the spread there is almost no chance that team would have been 3-9 bad. The talent was not 3-9 bad.
When Malzahn returned he knew essentially every player on that team. There was no learning curve that most first-year coaches go through in getting to know the strengths and weaknesses of their team - he already knew all of them and had coached them. He came in to about as good of a situation as any first-year coach can hope for. Better than 99% of what most coaches experience. Certainly better than what Bielema walked in to with a team full of Petrino recruits.
The fact that you are trying to argue this just shows how no one should take your opinion seriously. You are a biased moron who can't put 2 and 2 together and write long-winded fluff posts because you like to pretend you know what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 2:13 pm
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:12 pm to AU24
Good. Sucks. Really sucks.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:13 pm to Porcine Human
Hog fans are getting seriously exposed in this thread..
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:17 pm to BHMKyle
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I just think its interesting how Chizik was supposedly a joke of a head coach
Supposedly? as a HC he is a joke. His greatest skill as a HC was A) listening to his assistant coaches who wanted to sign Cam, B) handling the PR side of the Cam thing, and C) staying out of the way of his assistant coaches.
I think Chiz is a very strong DC but he's just not a good HC.
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Yet then in the next breath we are all supposed to believe that Gus walked into a very stable, talent-rich situation in which any dumbass could have prospered in.
I didn't say it was stable, talent rich that any dumbass could have prospered in. I said it was more stable thank Arky and he had more talent on the roster than Arky did. I also said that Gus' history at AU made for an easier transition than the one Bert had to make to a conference he'd never coached in before.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:18 pm to TigerProwl24
BHM rustled you guys
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:19 pm to TigerProwl24
quote:I'm glad to see an actual Auburn fan come in here. That Dawg fan (BHMKyle) has been writing novels to defend your coach. Give him a break and throw some info out here to support Gus.
TigerProwl24
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:19 pm to BHMKyle
They will call you names and claim you're hating, on what not sure of, but all your points have been extremely fair and valid. You aren't going to be able to reason with their delusions because they don't remember what being successful felt like.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:22 pm to TigerProwl24
Everything he has said has been spot on. No need to say much
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:25 pm to BHMKyle
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Both had new coaches. Both were putting in a new offensive system totally different that the one used the year before. Both had new Quarterbacks
The difference between Auburn and Arkansas in the years that Bert and Gus were hired was that Gus was only 1 year removed from being Auburn's OC. He recruited a majority of the offensive players that Auburn had on the roster when Gus was hired. The players already knew his system and it was an easier transition offensively for Auburn.
You go to Arkansas with Bert's first year and he has players recruited to run an entirely different offensive scheme than what Bert runs. That is where Auburn had the advantage.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:26 pm to woodhog14
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The difference between Auburn and Arkansas in the years that Bert and Gus were hired was that Gus was only 1 year removed from being Auburn's OC. He recruited a majority of the offensive players that Auburn had on the roster when Gus was hired. The players already knew his system and it was an easier transition offensively for Auburn.
but but media publications!11!!1!! Lindy's said Arkansas was better so it must be true
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:27 pm to TigerProwl24
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They will call you names and claim you're hating
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that at least half of his posts are shots at Arkansas.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:30 pm to Porcine Human
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BHMKyle
on queue
it's sad at this point
You're right. It is sad. Arkansas fans are getting owned and exposed at the same time..
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:34 pm to TigerProwl24
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Everything he has said has been spot on. No need to say much
As an Auburn fan you should know how ridiculous his magazine argument was
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:35 pm to sunseeker
Back to the OP.
After what I've watched from all three of these coaches....
After what I've watched from all three of these coaches....
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I will take Bert.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:35 pm to TigerProwl24
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owned and exposed at the same time..
Your coach is still waving in the runners from 3rd base. Tell me all about getting exposed
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:35 pm to piggilicious
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Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that at least half of his posts are shots at Arkansas.
I've never looked at someone's post history, but if I ever did, I would definitely be rustled.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:46 pm to lefty08
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Your coach is still waving in the runners from 3rd base. Tell me all about getting exposed
Everyone knows that you guys would trip over yourselves, if you could have him as your coach. Let's be real
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:53 pm to TigerProwl24
Uh...no.
There is a small fraction of people in Springdale that would want Gus to be HC at Arkansas, but not the majority of the fan base.
There is a small fraction of people in Springdale that would want Gus to be HC at Arkansas, but not the majority of the fan base.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:55 pm to TigerProwl24
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Hog fans are getting seriously exposed in this thread..
I do what I can even if it does mean defending Auburn.
They don't want to compare accomplishments when it comes to Bert, Gus, and Butch because Bert loses every time. Instead they say you have to look at the "trend" to rightly judge the three. Then when you point out that had the ball bounced a different way in their 4OT home victory against Auburn last season, the trends would be reversed, they try to act like they never said anything about trends.
They try to have it both ways. Unfortunately for them, there is absolutely no rational way of explaining how Bert can be so beloved by the Hog faithful despite a sub .500 record. He would have been run out of town with pitchforks at any "Big 6" school for those first three years, yet at Arkansas they think he's wonderful.
No further proof necessary for why you are not "Big 6"
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:57 pm to TigerProwl24
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Everything he has said has been spot on. No need to say much
There is a reason why he ignores many counterpoints that he can't argue against.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 3:00 pm
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