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re: Clay Travis New SEC Schedule Idea: Thoughts?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:43 pm to Farmer1906
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:43 pm to Farmer1906
Fine. Let's play more P5 teams instead of those "body bag" games.
I'm sure UGA/Clemson generates more than UGA/App. State.
I'm sure UGA/Clemson generates more than UGA/App. State.
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:45 pm to ALA2262
Let's play another P5 school then.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:47 pm to StringedInstruments
With very very few exceptions, the members of the SEC have never shown any desire to play the other members. I believe the sumbitches would be happy with a 12 game OOC schedule. But then they would lose that precious cash cow SECCG.
Hell will freeze over before they do what should be done and play a nine game conference schedule. Since 8 conference games is all they are willing to play and they are unwilling to give up the SECCG, why not go to an 18 team conference with the 9 members of each division playing the required 8 game round robin schedule. With NO cross over games! If any of them want to schedule each other then play them as OOC.
Hell will freeze over before they do what should be done and play a nine game conference schedule. Since 8 conference games is all they are willing to play and they are unwilling to give up the SECCG, why not go to an 18 team conference with the 9 members of each division playing the required 8 game round robin schedule. With NO cross over games! If any of them want to schedule each other then play them as OOC.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Those stretches didn't last very long.
But they do happen. No, sooner or later Bama will fall off its perch. When that day happens expect the other schools to cheerfully put the boots in.
It is easy to cheer your team on when they are winning everything. We shall see how many Bama fans are on here when Kentucky is scheduling them as a home coming game opponent.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:54 pm to Arksulli
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No, sooner or later Bama will fall off its perch.
Of course, but depending on who follows Saban a "fall off the perch" could be Les Miles at LSU. I'd be shocked if it was Mike Shula/Mike Price.
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When that day happens expect the other schools to cheerfully put the boots in.
Always have. We know how it goes.
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It is easy to cheer your team on when they are winning everything
We filled the stadium when we were on probation and going 4-9. Back then we were loud and obnoxious because we were "unreasonable" and "didn't understand we'd never be good again". However, the masses were still there and still loud.
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We shall see how many Bama fans are on here when Kentucky is scheduling them as a home coming game opponent.
I mean, that isn't a thing that is ever going to happen, but alright.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:57 pm to Arksulli
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But they do happen. No, sooner or later Bama will fall off its perch. When that day happens expect the other schools to cheerfully put the boots in.
It is easy to cheer your team on when they are winning everything. We shall see how many Bama fans are on here when Kentucky is scheduling them as a home coming game opponent.
Football is cyclical, but not that much. Kentucky will never be the team that dominates the SEC in football. There's a reason why programs are considered basketball or football.
One of the reasons why "the big 6" is identified is because those schools have shown the ability to go on a dominant run in the SEC. You're right. Bama will not be this good forever and when Saban leaves, they'll probably take a big step back. Florida, Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, or Georgia will most likely step up and swipe a few of the 4 and 5 star recruits that would have gone to a Saban-led team and then put on a 3-4 year run. That's how it goes and has been that way for 50 years.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:18 pm to Dawgsontop34
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I just don't get why we don't play a 9 game conference schedule and eliminate 1 crap or non power-5 team each year.
Because 13 of the conference coaches don't want that, including yours.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:27 pm to Arksulli
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Which you say now because you have the best college football coach in America and are riding high. Since some of us have more memory retention then a gold fish we can remember when you were relieved that Alabama was coming up on the schedule.
Enjoy your stay on top while it lasts but there will come a day where the schools you have listed are bitching and moaning that Alabama is dragging their strength of schedule down.
Before I submitted my post I actually took out the part about how I know Alabama is going to cycle back down.
I was actually going to say, the other side of that coin is that Alabama would end up having probably Auburn, Tennessee, and probably LSU as permanents. When we eventually suck again, which will happen, we are going to be pissed when somebody like South Carolina skates through a schedule with none of the traditional powers on it.
Also, it will be a long time before somebody bitches about Alabama being on the schedule because they aren't good. Teams love to beat Alabama, doesn't matter if they are #1 or 3-8, they like beating Alabama when they can.
I'm getting my bitching in before it actually comes to fruition. If this schedule "fix" (personally I don't have a problem only going to Kentucky every dozen years or so) is implemented the Big 6 teams are going to have mostly other Big 6 teams as their permanents. At which point they are effectively playing in a different conference than teams with none of those traditional powers on the schedule
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:29 pm to StringedInstruments
Stopped at Clay Travis.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:34 pm to StringedInstruments
This will never happen because of unfair scheduling. The only thing that might happen is splitting into four divisions if/when the SEC goes to 16 teams.
Why do people keep using the term pod? Its just smaller damn divisions like every professional league has done with expansion.
Eastern Division
Georgia
Florida
South Carolina
X
Central
Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn
Vanderbilt
Southwest Division
LSU
Texas A&M
Mississippi State
Ole Probation
North Division
Mizzou
Arkansas
Kentucky
X
Why do people keep using the term pod? Its just smaller damn divisions like every professional league has done with expansion.
Eastern Division
Georgia
Florida
South Carolina
X
Central
Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn
Vanderbilt
Southwest Division
LSU
Texas A&M
Mississippi State
Ole Probation
North Division
Mizzou
Arkansas
Kentucky
X
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:49 pm to JCdawg
Virginia Tech (North) and NC State (East) would be nice additions in that alignment.
Or West Virginia, who they should've added over Mizzou in the first place.
Or West Virginia, who they should've added over Mizzou in the first place.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:12 pm to StringedInstruments
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The current SEC schedule makes it so that teams will complete a home and home series every 6 years.
No, it's every 12 years.
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Travis suggests eliminating permanent divisions and have a rotating schedule.
Every team gets three annual rival games and then rotates a home and home schedule with five SEC teams every other year.
Fine by me. He's far from the first person to suggest this. I've even posted about it on here before.
The problem you would run into is that some long-running series would be cut, and it would be mostly the non-big six teams losing some of their more meaningful annual series. If LSU had to cut down to three annual opponents, A&M and Arkie would scream bloody murder if they weren't among them, but if we had to keep them both we'd only get to keep one of Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss, Auburn and MSU, and we definitely wouldn't want that. So, no matter what three opponents you assigned LSU, at least one of A&M, Arkie or LSU would vote against it. You'd have situations like that all across the conference and pretty much any plan would likely have at least 7 "no" votes.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:18 pm to StringedInstruments
Alabama
@Georgia
@LSU
@Missouri
@Miss State
@Florida
Vanderbilt
Arkansas
5 SEC games on the road, vs 3 at home. That's pretty tough.
@Georgia
@LSU
@Missouri
@Miss State
@Florida
Vanderbilt
Arkansas
5 SEC games on the road, vs 3 at home. That's pretty tough.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:25 pm to ArabianKnight
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5 SEC games on the road, vs 3 at home. That's pretty tough.
Came here to post this. I like everything about this idea except you need to have 4 road games and 4 away games every year. Pretty sure the only wy that can be done is if 1 of your permanent rivals is on a home-home-away-away type of rotation.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:53 pm to GeauxPack81
So in your scenario I would make it:
Auburn Schedule 2018
Alabama
@Georgia
@LSU
Missouri
Miss State
Florida
@Vanderbilt
@Arkansas
Auburn 2019 Schedule
@Alabama
Georgia
@LSU
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Tennessee
@Kentucky
@South Carolina
Auburn 2020 Schedule
Alabama
@Georgia
LSU
@Missouri
@Miss State
@Florida
Vanderbilt
Arkansas
Auburn 2021 Schedule
@Alabama
Georgia
LSU
@Texas A&M
@Ole Miss
@Tennessee
Kentucky
South Carolina
Auburn Schedule 2018
Alabama
@Georgia
@LSU
Missouri
Miss State
Florida
@Vanderbilt
@Arkansas
Auburn 2019 Schedule
@Alabama
Georgia
@LSU
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Tennessee
@Kentucky
@South Carolina
Auburn 2020 Schedule
Alabama
@Georgia
LSU
@Missouri
@Miss State
@Florida
Vanderbilt
Arkansas
Auburn 2021 Schedule
@Alabama
Georgia
LSU
@Texas A&M
@Ole Miss
@Tennessee
Kentucky
South Carolina
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I would be OK with this, but Auburn does not need to keep Bama, UGA and LSU while some schools play Vandy, UK, USCe...
Auburn: Bama, UGA, Ole Miss, MSU
BAMA: Auburn, UT, MSU, LSU
LSU: BAMA, Florida, Ole Miss, TAMU
Ole Miss: Auburn, LSU, MSU, Vandy
MSU: UK, Auburn, Ole Miss,
TAMU: LSU, Arkie, USCe,
Arkie: TAMU, Mizzou
Auburn: Bama, UGA, Ole Miss, MSU
BAMA: Auburn, UT, MSU, LSU
LSU: BAMA, Florida, Ole Miss, TAMU
Ole Miss: Auburn, LSU, MSU, Vandy
MSU: UK, Auburn, Ole Miss,
TAMU: LSU, Arkie, USCe,
Arkie: TAMU, Mizzou
Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:03 pm to Nuts4LSU
AS much as I enjoy the history of DSOR, I think the easiest thing to do would be to eliminate the cross-division rivalries and just rotate three cross-division opponents every year. It is ridiculous that TAMU has been a part of the SEC since 2012 and we have yet to play at Kyle Field and will not until 2024 and that LSU won't be back to Athens until 2025.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:21 pm to StringedInstruments
Who lucks up and gets Vandy, Arky, Missou every year?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:23 pm to JCdawg
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North Division
Mizzou
Arkansas
Kentucky
X
My money is on X
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:36 pm to Arksulli
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No, sooner or later Bama will fall off its perch.
even without Saban's tenure, Bama still has more national & sec titles than anyone else in the conference. the "perch" isn't some place Bama went to in 2008. It's a place Bama went BACK to in 2008.
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When that day happens expect the other schools to cheerfully put the boots in
Better hope the opportunity is there (b/c it won't be if Bama hires Dabo or another coach who can lead with the cupboard stocked like it will be when Saban retires). And, if the opportunity is there, you better put 'em in quick b/c the window of opportunity to do so will be small.
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It is easy to cheer your team on when they are winning everything
which has been in every decade since the 60's with the exception of the 80's (and even then Bama won a SEC titles).
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We shall see how many Bama fans are on here when Kentucky is scheduling them as a home coming game opponent.
what in history has ever indicated that this would be a possibility?
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