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Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:35 am to StringedInstruments
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:36 am to Master of Sinanju
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It would be great. But isn't that illegal right now (eliminating divisions but still having a CCG), according to the NCAA?
Per rules you must have a round robin format if you want to have a championship game. So CT scenerio is against NCAA rules if we want to have a CG
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:42 am to NYCAuburn
For me keeping the iron bowl and uga game are the most important things, but I would like to play other teams more often. I'm in favor of 9 game SEC schedule or having 3 or 4 perm opponents.
The one proposed would be fun, but tough. I'd probably favor something like bama,uga, and miss state.
The one proposed would be fun, but tough. I'd probably favor something like bama,uga, and miss state.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:45 am to Dawgsontop34
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There are plenty of other crap teams we play that can be eliminated as well. I know the ACC only has an 8 game conference schedule as well, and we think our conference is so tough we only need 8, but the B1G, Big 12, and Pac 12 all have 9 game conference schedules.
The mistake here is that rankings still matter and those rankings are at some point driven by the confirmation bias of looking at a teams record. The body bag games are something that provides a near 100% boost to the win totals of all conference members and therefore inflates that overall win totals for everyone in the conference. By replacing those near certain victories with a confrere game in essence you reduce the average win totals of the conference by a 1/2 a game.
That matters when you are looking at the various secondary data points people tout as reasons for a strong SOS. By reducing the number of potential wins you can reduce the number of bowl eligible teams. That might mean too much to people, but it could have much farther reaching implications that just making scheduling more convenient.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:53 am to StringedInstruments
Currently it's a 12 year H/H cycle.
Non-divisions DO NOT work because too many tie-breakers will be needed to figure out whi's better than whom with no common opponents (just for starters).
We need 9 games OR 16 teams with pod scheduling!
Also, this isn't a new idea. We've debated this idea every time scheduling is discussed on here.
Non-divisions DO NOT work because too many tie-breakers will be needed to figure out whi's better than whom with no common opponents (just for starters).
We need 9 games OR 16 teams with pod scheduling!
Also, this isn't a new idea. We've debated this idea every time scheduling is discussed on here.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 11:56 am
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:55 am to Dawgsontop34
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I just don't get why we don't play a 9 game conference schedule and eliminate 1 crap or non power-5 team each year.
It's called money. Something the SEC is real big on. It's 7 full stadiums and 7 empty stadiums instead of 14 full stadiums.
Pitiful that the SEC plays the same number (56) of OOC games as it plays conference games.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 11:58 am
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:02 pm to Dawgsontop34
But from what I've read online in articles on scheduling, the SEC is more difficult because we have more rivalries than other conferences.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:17 pm to ALA2262
But are "rent-a-win" games more packed than an SEC conf. game?
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:20 pm to southernboisb
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But are "rent-a-win" games more packed than an SEC conf. game?
I doubt it.
No, but 7 stadiums at 100% capacity is still a lot less than 14 stadium at 85% capacity.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:20 pm to StringedInstruments
Then how do you determine a champion? I assume you still want the SECG. How do you determine who goes? Top 2? Schedules will vary widely and some teams will have a much easier road then other
Round robin is an essential element to determining true champions. We need to move the national system more towards a round robin rather than moving the conference level the other way.
Round robin is an essential element to determining true champions. We need to move the national system more towards a round robin rather than moving the conference level the other way.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:24 pm to StringedInstruments
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Travis suggests eliminating permanent divisions and have a rotating schedule.
No,No and more NO!!!
How many times are we gonna go over this????
How exactly is the champion determined in a 3 way
tie?
It would be unbelievably moronic to eliminate the SECCG.
Pretty sure any conference with 12+ teams HAS to split up into divisions.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:25 pm to StringedInstruments
It's against the damn rules! Nothing to see here. Stupid F proposal by a stupid F a-hole.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:25 pm to David Ricky
Thought this seemed familiar
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:30 pm to StringedInstruments
at Clay Travis acting like this is his idea. this idea has been kicked around by various people for years.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:32 pm to southernboisb
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But are "rent-a-win" games more packed than an SEC conf. game? I doubt it.
Then call it 7 open stadiums and 7 closed stadiums opposed to 14 open stadiums.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:34 pm to ALA2262
The pod system/no divisions is clearly the way to schedule conferences in the era of 14+ teams.
It's the best compromise to keep old rivalries intact while also playing enough games against all the league teams to still feel like it's one big league where you really do all know each other.
It's the best compromise to keep old rivalries intact while also playing enough games against all the league teams to still feel like it's one big league where you really do all know each other.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:35 pm to StringedInstruments
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We already do?
I was comparing that schedule to what another team would get for their permanent 3 teams to play every year
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:38 pm to UAtide11
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I think this would lead to wide schedule imbalance between teams and from one year to the next. I mean there could be a scenario where a team could avoid every single member of the big 6. Is it really playing an SEC schedule if you're beating up on Mizzou, A&M, SC, Arky, Kentucky, Vandy, and the Mississippi schools?
Which you say now because you have the best college football coach in America and are riding high. Since some of us have more memory retention then a gold fish we can remember when you were relieved that Alabama was coming up on the schedule.
Enjoy your stay on top while it lasts but there will come a day where the schools you have listed are bitching and moaning that Alabama is dragging their strength of schedule down.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:42 pm to Arksulli
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Since some of us have more memory retention then a gold fish we can remember when you were relieved that Alabama was coming up on the schedule.
Those stretches didn't last very long. Arkansas has never won more than 2 games in a row against Alabama and your best 5 year stretch was 3-2 (best 10 year stretch 6-4), so, at best you thought you had even odds.
Alabama hasn't had a 3 season stretch that didn't have at least once 10 win season since 1983-1985.
10 win seasons last 30 years : 1986, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2002, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 12:43 pm
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