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re: Civil War nicknames for SEC states..
Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:52 am to theGarnetWay
Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:52 am to theGarnetWay
here's why SC was the "rice birds"... prior to the Civil War, SC produced 75% of Europe's rice. (50% came from Georgetown where I live). Georgetown was the wealthiest county in the US in 1860, so it had the a lot to lose with ending slavery.
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:09 am to winyahpercy
Texans wore a star on their hats and belt buckles. Many served bravely in Louisiana as calvary and as dis-mounted calvary (can not seen to make them leave their horses). They fought like demons to fend off the Yankees who were attempting to conquer Louisiana with the aim of invading Texas. We in Louisiana need to always remember the Texans who served with our La. ancestors to protect our homes. In the last major battle, 8000 Texans and Louisiana troops soundly whipped 35000 Yankees at Mansfield, sending them packing back to New Orleans never to return until after the war.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:24 am to DCRebel
We call people from Hannibal, MO "river rats". That term applies to people from old Mississippi River towns. Typically, Mississippi River towns tend to be rough, from Hannibal, MO down to Alton, IL, St. Louis, MO, Memphis, TN, New Orleans, LA, and many small towns in-between.
Many families from river towns seem to stay there for generations. Therefore, those towns are comprised of many generations of rough and tumble trash. Just take a drive thru the neighborhoods closest to the water front. Images tell great stories.
Many families from river towns seem to stay there for generations. Therefore, those towns are comprised of many generations of rough and tumble trash. Just take a drive thru the neighborhoods closest to the water front. Images tell great stories.
This post was edited on 6/25/12 at 9:27 am
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:37 am to theGarnetWay
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I've actually heard the term Sandlappers before (but refered to SCers not MSers)
It's like some things never change. Sand Lapper is referred to as people farming the worst possible lands, usually the poorest of the poor type farmers. They couldn't afford fertile ground so they had to settle for the land nobody else wanted which was typically sandy conditions. At least that was what my grandfather explained to me a long time ago when I asked what was a sand lapper. Whether that's correct or not, I don't know. But it makes a little more sense now I see on that list.
It's almost akin to being called a redneck or hillbilly and not related just to one particular state.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:39 am to beatbammer
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So are y'all saying that the African-American young men who play for your football and basketball teams really hate those Yankee terrorists?
Not all of Missouri was for the south, Their are those of us who are proud of the one's who stood for freedom for all men.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:45 am to MIZZOU MSG
Also, I'd like to nominate this thread as thread of the year simply because we were able to coexist in this thread and have rational historical discussions without trolls or flamers hijacking a good thing.
Now that I've said this, I predict the thread will die a flaming death from tards who want to prove a point...
Now that I've said this, I predict the thread will die a flaming death from tards who want to prove a point...
This post was edited on 6/25/12 at 9:49 am
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:47 am to Cdawg
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Sand Lapper is referred to as people farming the worst possible lands, usually the poorest of the poor type farmers
in SC, Sandlapper was supposedly dubbed to us by the British during the Revolutionary War that claimed that we crawled along the sand waiting to make a guerilla attack rather than stand up I fight face to face where they had better numbers. George Washington also referred to us as the Sandlappers that were intramental is winning the war.. we called the farmers working the poor land "clay eaters".
Posted on 6/25/12 at 10:04 am to dwr353
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We in Louisiana need to always remember the Texans who served with our La. ancestors to protect our homes.
Same for Arkansas with the Louisiana Tigers at Pea Ridge, and for Louisiana with the 15th Arkansas at Port Hudson. My great, great, great grandfather fought and was captured at the 'Fort Desperate' position.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 10:13 am to mizzoukills
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Now that I've said this, I predict the thread will die a flaming death from tards who want to prove a point...
Soon, very soon...
Posted on 6/25/12 at 10:36 am to NCrawler
NCrawler, I agree. Three of my grandfathers served in the 18th La Infy. and one in the 26th La Infy who was captured at Vicksburg. I guess we have something in common with the Webels and Moo U.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:09 am to dwr353
Also to add a little more history. while most of the history happened on the Western side of the state, there were lots of Abolitionists from IL that would come in and try to claim St. Louis entirely for the Union. We were the major city in the region and it would cripple the confederate efforts if they used St. Louis as a hub.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:24 am to Stripes314
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Bill Anderson is buried in the town where I was born. Interesting, the jail that collapsed is one block from the power and light district in Kansas City. I grew up hating ku. I fly the Q. Good to loose the unhealthy rivalry.
You are from Richmond, MO? Been to his grave mant times. It's tucked away into a remote corner of the cemetery. If you didn't know it was there you would miss it. I also had a guy from Liberty, MO take me to the site where he was killed (about three miles or so from Richmond0. If you other SEC people are interested in that history, you should go to Centralia when you visit. The battlefield outside of town looks very much like it did when Anderson and the James boys rode down about 150 Union soldiers killing them all and there is a nice little museum in town. For you Mizzou people there is a great little bookshop in Liberty that specializzes in Bushwacker memorabilia, clothing (they wore special shirts that could hold lots of ammo) and books. Great place. It's right near the bank that the James boys robbed and across the street from the old jail. The robbery was first daylight bank robbery in American history. Also, you should go to Bushwacker Days in Nevada, MO. Great thread by the way.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 12:34 pm to calitiger
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For you Mizzou people there is a great little bookshop in Liberty that specializzes in Bushwacker memorabilia, clothing (they wore special shirts that could hold lots of ammo) and books. Great place. It's right near the bank that the James boys robbed and across the street from the old jail. The robbery was first daylight bank robbery in American history. Also, you should go to Bushwacker Days in Nevada, MO. Great thread by the way.
Is that Liberty Bank still a Jesse James Museum?
I also was wondering since I haven't been up there in awhile but do they still have the play about the James boys life at their old farmhouse up by Kearney Missouri? They used to have it on weekends through the summer.
And speaking of grave-sites I grew up in Independence Missouri and we used to go to this park called Hill Park. In the very back of it we went into this really small graveyard and that is where Frank James grave is.
This post was edited on 6/25/12 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/25/12 at 12:43 pm to gwilging
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Btw, why is Tennessee the "Hog Drivers"?
Tennessee was known for producing and exporting to other states large quantities of pork prior to The Late Unpleasantness.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 12:47 pm to sfury
Yes, the bank is still a museum. I don't know about the play because I've only been to Kearny during the spring and autumn. I've been to Independence as well and there are some good historical sites there. I think that George Todd, another bushwacker commander, is also buried in that cemetery. Arch Clement was killed in Lexington (another great battlefield to visit) and is buried nearby. I had three ancestors who rode with Quantrill so this era has been an interest of mine for quite some time.
ETA: I just visited Northfield, MN recently and the bank there is also a James-Younger gang museum with some nice artifacts including Cole Younger's pistols and the bank's accounts book from that day in 1876.
ETA: I just visited Northfield, MN recently and the bank there is also a James-Younger gang museum with some nice artifacts including Cole Younger's pistols and the bank's accounts book from that day in 1876.
This post was edited on 6/25/12 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 6/25/12 at 1:23 pm to calitiger
Thanks to everyone (except one) who has contribuited to this thread and kept out all the bs about causes, judgements, and other things.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 1:40 pm to dwr353
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Texans wore a star on their hats and belt buckles. Many served bravely in Louisiana as calvary and as dis-mounted calvary (can not seen to make them leave their horses). They fought like demons to fend off the Yankees who were attempting to conquer Louisiana with the aim of invading Texas. We in Louisiana need to always remember the Texans who served with our La. ancestors to protect our homes. In the last major battle, 8000 Texans and Louisiana troops soundly whipped 35000 Yankees at Mansfield, sending them packing back to New Orleans never to return until after the war.
Texans gonna Texas.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 2:23 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Texans gonna Texas.
Well, that's stupid.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 2:26 pm to cigsmcgee
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Arkansas the “toothpick state.
since most residents only have one tooth that is fitting
would never be called the "teeth State" since no one in arkansas has more than one in their mouth
Posted on 6/25/12 at 2:37 pm to dwr353
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Thanks to everyone (except one) who has contribuited to this thread and kept out all the bs about causes, judgements, and other things.
I second that. Missouri has a fascinating history and I only hope that visiting fans take the time to explore some sites.
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