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re: Board historians, who was the 1964 college football national champion?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:45 pm to Roses of Crimson
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:45 pm to Roses of Crimson
Did you just debate yourself?
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:46 pm to Boomer00
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Some of the others bama and OU claim after bowl losses.
Which 9 are you claiming for OU? You added 5 to the existing 7 earlier.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:54 pm to Boomer00
quote:Someone please destroy this
You do realize OU has 17 NCAA recognized titles by the same math Alabama uses, yet they only claim 7 right? Bama should at the MOST claim 9. That's it.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:56 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Arkansas and Alabama split 1964
Just as USC and LSU split 2003
Just as USC and LSU split 2003
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:57 pm to bamawriter
To the existing 7
Add: 1953 OU beat #1 Maryland who beat Alabama that year. (in the bowl game)
Add: 1973 OU won every game and tied USC. I suppose OU, Bama, and USC should share this title.
Add: 1978 (possibly)
Add: 1953 OU beat #1 Maryland who beat Alabama that year. (in the bowl game)
Add: 1973 OU won every game and tied USC. I suppose OU, Bama, and USC should share this title.
Add: 1978 (possibly)
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:59 pm to Boomer00
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OU should have the 7 claimed titles
PLUS:
53
57
67
73(share)
78(share)
You keep bringin' up the 7 claimed titles, yet '50 is one of those...you say Bama can't claim '64, yet OU can still claim '50...how do you justify that?
How can you claim '53? While y'all beat #1 Maryland in the bowl game, y'all lost to #2 Notre Dame earlier that year...so using your same logic that '78 Bama couldn't be champions after beating the #1 in a bowl since USC beat 'em, how can you claim '53 when Notre Dame beat y'all head to head in Norman? ND also finished undefeated that year with 1 tie so they had a better record to boot...
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:03 pm to OldPete
You make some good points actually. Its interesting how they all stack up once you start comparing the seasons of each team. I do still think OU should at least claim 2 additional titles for 53 and 73. Looks like Bama may have 12 or 13 legit titles honestly.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:These threads blow my fricking mind. Not because they are started once a week, but because the people who start them have NO idea what they're talking about. Why do people continue to make fools of themselves like this?
I mean, do whatever you want, but those are pretty flimsy.
Also notice you are totally cool keeping 1950 even though you lost to Kentucky in the Bowl Game.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:07 pm to Boomer00
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1953 OU beat #1 Maryland who beat Alabama that year
That Alabama team went 6-3-3.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:09 pm to OldPete
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Bama claiming '41 is an embarrassment and should be dropped
How so? My understanding is that Bama's standard for claiming the 15 national titles is that the titles had to be awarded AT THE TIME THE TEAM PLAYED (i.e., not retroactively decades later by questionable computer applications). The 1941 title meets that criteria.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:10 pm to Boomer00
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You make some good points actually. Its interesting how they all stack up once you start comparing the seasons of each team.
That's all I'm tryin' to say...lots of teams claim championships similar to Bama, but Bama seems to get much more grief. However, I think that's a partially self-inflicted wound as there's no way we should be claiming 1941...if we'd never claimed that one, I don't think we'd get half the grief we do...still to this day, I can't figure out why we don't drop it...
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:11 pm to TheDude321
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How so? My understanding is that Bama's standard for claiming the 15 national titles is that the titles had to be awarded AT THE TIME THE TEAM PLAYED (i.e., not retroactively decades later by questionable computer applications). The 1941 title meets that criteria.
Let's see
- Went 5-2 in the SEC (MSU went 4-0-1, Tennessee went 3-1)
- Lost to Mississippi State, who finished with a better SEC Record
- Finished ranked #20 in the AP Poll
The only system that awarded us the title was Houlgate. It's a bogus title. It should be removed.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:13 pm to OldPete
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I can't figure out why we don't drop it...
They will never do that. A larger group of the fanbase would rather where stuff with "Got 15?" on it than admit one of them is bogus than those of us who realize 90% of them are totally legitimate and if we just got rid of the illegitimate one nobody would have any gripes.
And the Got 15 portion buys stuff and writes angry letters.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:16 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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LSUTigersVCURams
What about the 1958 national championship?
Aubs also with a split national championship. Wasn't Auburn on probation that year?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:17 pm to Boomer00
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Add: 1973 OU won every game and tied USC. I suppose OU, Bama, and USC should share this title.
Notre Dame says "hi."
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:19 pm to OldPete
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I can't figure out why we don't drop it..
I am glad yall don't. One of the best parts of the SEC move for Texas A&M was getting to count our national titles using Bama math (which meant adding two).
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:20 pm to Boomer00
Jeez... you have the criteria. AP, UPI, or pre-1940 Rose Bowl. Is there something you don't understand here?
Transitive comparisons are not used for determining national championships.
Transitive comparisons are not used for determining national championships.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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if we just got rid of the illegitimate one nobody would have any gripes.
I don't believe that.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:22 pm to cardboardboxer
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I am glad yall don't.
Oh, we know. All of you are glad. I'm sure even if we did that people would start talking about titles we won when we lost Bowl Games, but that doesn't bother me intellectually because everyone knows that AP/Coaches Poll titles are what counts.
1941 bothers me intellectually. I want it gone.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:22 pm to Master of Sinanju
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I don't believe that.
Should rephrase : nobody would have legitimate gripes
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