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Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:35 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
I would assume it is very similar to what the record books say about the 2003 national champions
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:38 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
It's Arkansas
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:39 pm to Diamondawg
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There was a joke back in the early 70s that Bear Bryant wouldn't put his cereal in a bowl. He was afraid he would lose it
From 1967-74 the Bear was 0-7-1 in bowl games.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You don't want to look too far into bamas claimed championships....half of them are fake... 
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:06 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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They changed it for that 1 year because they were so damn embarrassed at...giving it to bama.
Maybe so, but that was far from the first time they'd done that...prior to '64, same thing happened with Oklahoma in '50, Tennessee in '51, Maryland in '53, and Minnesota in '60 and it didn't seem to embarrass 'em then...
Even their new rules (awarding after the bowl game) resulted in another AP title for Bama in '65 so I guess they were embarrassed again and changed it back...and then in '66 I guess they ultimately made up for the past 2 years by just deciding they wouldn't vote for Bama either way...
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:08 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Board historians, who was the 1964 college football national champion?
Arkansas
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Board historians, who was the 2016 college football national champion?
Not Lsu
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Board historians, did LSU win its Super Bowl in 2016?
Nope
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:09 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
We could give up half of our claimed titles and still have more than pretty much all of your teams combined.
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:09 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Who cares? We won the superbowl the past 2 years.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:12 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Btw, the polls fricked up so bad in awarding it to bama, at least one of them changed the way they vote to try and make up for it.
Which led to Alabama winning it again in 1965. Under the old rules, Arkansas would have won it.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:14 pm to Boomer00
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You don't want to look too far into bamas claimed championships....half of them are fake.
True.
It really is a joke.
Nearly all of the 6 they credit to Bryant are tarnished in one way or another.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:15 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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They changed it for that 1 year because they were so damn embarrassed
That's the irony of the whole thing. Arky got screwed in '64 because the final polls were taken BEFORE the bowl games; Arky would've been #1 after the bowls. Then in '65 they got screwed the opposite way, because they were #1 before the bowls, but the AP decided to take its final poll AFTER the bowl games (which they ended up losing to LSU).
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:20 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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They changed it for that 1 year because they were so damn embarrassed at the frick up of giving it to bama.
Had Alabama not gone to a bowl game at the end of the '64 season would you be as irate?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:55 pm to Boomer00
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You don't want to look too far into bamas claimed championships....half of them are fake...
Last time I checked, Oklahoma still claims 1950...yet they got beat by Kentucky (coached by Bear Bryant) in their bowl game that season...is that a fake one as well?
Bama claiming '41 is an embarrassment and should be dropped...other than that one, which ones are fake? I agree that '64 and '73 would be frowned upon by today's standards, but both were backed by either the AP or Coaches poll under their rules during that time...is there a school that has ever refused to claim a poll championship? Could be wrong, but I think not...
While there was no contemporary authority for the pre-poll championships we claim, we won (or tied in '26) the only bowl game in existence...and more than 1 contemporary newspaper viewed the Rose Bowl game as a de facto (albeit mythical) national championship game...and we're by far from the only ones claiming pre-poll championships...
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:05 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
quote:You mean Cotton Bowl?
Rose Bowl
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:07 pm to OldPete
You do realize OU has 17 NCAA recognized titles by the same math Alabama uses, yet they only claim 7 right? Bama should at the MOST claim 9. That's it.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:11 pm to Boomer00
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OU has 17 NCAA recognized titles by the same math Alabama uses
No, no they don't. The NCAA website recognizes the following
NCAA.com - FBS History - National Titles
Oklahoma (7) : 2000, 1985, 1975, 1974, 1956, 1955, 1950
Alabama (13) : 2012, 2011, 2009, 1992, 1979, 1978, 1973, 1965, 1964, 1961, 1930, 1926, 1925
The "Official NCAA Football Records Book" recognizes Oklahoma with 17 and Alabama with 20. So no, it is not the same math.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Ok maybe its AP and coaches titles that they have 17 of. Either way that was how the champion was deteremined after WW2. That being said bama shouldn't claim the 78 title over USC when they lost to that team. At the MOST bama should claim Nine or ten. 41, 64, 73, and 78 are fake..
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Too bad Oklahoma and Alabama couldn't have played after the 1978 season. IMO,they were the two best teams.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:18 pm to Boomer00
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Ok maybe its AP and coaches titles that they have 17 of.
LOL no it is not that either
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That being said bama shouldn't claim the 78 title over USC when they lost to that team
They won the AP poll. You can't just pick and choose which year the AP poll matters and which it doesn't.
Alabama has 9 AP National Titles (1961, 1964, 1965, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012). They also have 1941 which is a joke, and the Rose Bowl Champion teams of 1925, 1926, 1930 and 1934. 1941 is embarrassing and should be removed. I have no problem with the other 13. At all. AP Champs + Undefeated Rose Bowl winners in an era where that was the game.
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