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re: Biggest bonehead move in the last 20 years for your program?

Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:10 am to
Posted by Solo Cam
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:10 am to
Bo Pelini
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:17 am to
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Cutcliffe


Cut gave us no choice. His recruiting was atrocious and he refused to make any coaching changes. He wasn’t a good head coach.

He was a great quarterback coach. And that’s it.

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O


I’m torn on this. He wasn’t qualified to be a head coach. But he was building a pretty solid foundation with his recruiting. I do not believe we go to back to back cotton bowls with O. I also don’t believe we only win 4 and then 2 the following seasons.

There were also reports he had lost the players at the end of the 2007 season. I think you would have seen a mass exodus at the end of that season.


IMHO the biggest boneheaded move was Bjork not monitoring the state funded phone Freeze had and not giving him a loaner phone.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 7:18 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:23 am to
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We'll see your Coach Fran, and raise you a Dubose and Shula


Shula wasn't so much boneheaded as an act of desperation. The timing of it left Alabama with very few alternatives - and none of them good.
It was actually a good move hiring Shula over Croom. Shula was easily disposable when the time came without any additional political considerations to deal with.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 7:24 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:25 am to
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Not giving Brian VanGorder a raise and then replacing him with Willie Martinez.


Same with Bobo/Schottenheimer.

Replacing Chaney with Coley.

Also, choosing Jake Fromm over Justin Fields.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 7:26 am
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 11:19 am to
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1. Mike Price was never the head football coach at the University of Alabama. Contract not signed, all he did was preside over a spring practice and go to Florida. I have the same record as head coach for Alabama as he does. That’s my story and I’m sticking with it.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 11:25 am to
Hiring Eric Hyman as AD. His fecal touch had far reaching effects beyond just football.
Posted by AggieinAL2
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 11:30 am to
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Biggest bonehead move in the last 20 years for your program? by Ag Zwin
This Auburn “Ready-Fire-Aim” debacle is something else, but most of us have had them.

What is the dumbest thing your school has done in a while?

As an Aggie, I nominate poaching Fraudchione, but I give the nod to extending Rumlin before seeing what he does without Kliff and Johnny Football. We’re STILL paying that dumbass not to coach.


I hate to say it as an Aggie but it’s got to be not winning anything.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 11:32 am to
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We'll see your Coach Fran, and raise you a Dubose and Shula


Don't forget the RR offer before Saban happened.
Posted by BamaDude06
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:02 pm to
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Don't forget the RR offer before Saban happened.



That offer was made because the boosters at Alabama were getting antsy about not having a coach hired. In addition to Rita not liking the comments made about her, it was also said that Mal intentionally low balled Rich Rod hoping he would turn it down. He accepted in principle, but changed his mind the next day. After that Mal finally grew a pair and essentially told the boosters to frick off and let him run his coaching search himself.

Considering his ties to Bryant and the fact he had been a part of so many national championships as both a player and assistant coach, I don't think any other AD at Alabama would have been able to wait out the Dolphins season ending and make an actual run at Nick Saban.
Posted by AggieinAL2
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:07 pm to
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Hiring Eric Hyman as AD. His fecal touch had far reaching effects beyond just football.


How we didn’t see hiring someone named “Hyman” was a bad idea is beyond me.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:20 pm to
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He wasn’t a good head coach.

He was a great quarterback coach. And that’s it.


I mean he's taken a Duke program that had *one* winning season from 1990-2007 (including 4 winless seasons) to six bowl games and an ACC Championship game.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:20 pm to
Joker Phillips
Posted by GBJs
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:24 pm to
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Whether Price coached a game or not - he was still hired to be the coach.


I like to think it was agreed to in principle... I mean we didn’t even have a buyout except payment for Destiny’s room service tab.

Aaaaannnnndddddd.... I have the same record as he does as head football coach for the University of Alabama.
Posted by GBJs
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:28 pm to
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Oh.. just an old joke.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Skip no matching or exceeding Wayne Hyzenga or Skip not telling Les to walk to Michigan in 2007 and giving Saban whatever he wanted to comeback.


To be fair Saban always wanted to give the NFL a go. I don't think Skip could have convinced him to stay at that time. Word in Tuscaloosa back in 2007 was someone associated with LSU did reach out to Sexton to gauge Saban's interest in coming back and they were told after all the flack he got for leaving Miami the year before there was no way he could leave Alabama so quickly. I do think this is why Herbstreit said what he did about Les going to Michigan. LSU was going to let him go if Saban agreed to come back. When that became clear it wasn't going to happen they felt like they had to keep him, especially since we would be playing for a title in a few weeks.

I think this is another point though. How often does it work out when a "legendary" coach becomes the full time AD after retiring from coaching? Didn't Skip say in 2004 something to the effect of "I made Saban the highest paid coach last year, I'm not renegotiating again this year."? I think Alvarez at Wisconsin has done the same thing. He doesn't want another coach to exceed his legacy. One of the reason's both Bielema and Anderson left there was him saying assistant coaching salaries were outrageos and he refused to let them give their staffs raises and they were tired of losing assistants to other schools every year.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:31 pm to
So coach Fran is the correct answer for two programs?
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:51 pm to
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I hate to say it as an Aggie but it’s got to be not winning anything.


As billtaylor furiously Jack's off
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2209 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:52 pm to
Multiple answer: Franchione/Sumlin
Posted by Go Go Gata
Member since Oct 2016
2177 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:56 pm to
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Biggest bonehead move in the last 20 years for your program?



Former UF AD Jeremy Foley hiring Muschamp and McElwain.

Set the program back at least 10 years.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18924 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:56 pm to
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2 words Ray Tanner



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