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re: Baseball Polls - May 11

Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Hugh McElroy
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:01 pm to
If A&M wins the midweek game and takes 2/3 from Ole Miss, we will be locks to get a national seed. Our pitching injuries have finally caught up to us, though, and we might not finish 3-1.
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:03 pm to
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Did they complete shite themselves over the last month or something?


yep, I think they lost 14 of the last 16 games or something around there. That includes some pretty bad midweek loses.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:19 pm to
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If A&M wins the midweek game and takes 2/3 from Ole Miss, we will be locks to get a national seed


This is false IMO. If aTm wins midweek, takes 2/3 from OM in an unimpressive series and then goes winless in the SEC tourney I don't think they would get a national seed.

They would need to win the OM series decisively, optimally sweeping it, to have a shot at locking up a national seed before the tourney. If they don't dominate the series, they will need to win a couple in the tourney I think.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:23 pm to
I think CPM keeps the team focused on winning the outright sec season championship. don't worry about national seeds etc etc etc. just focus on winning the sec west and total outright. we havent done that in a few years and winning it is a huge deal.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 12:24 pm
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:43 pm to
Did we drop in the RPI after sweeping state?
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:16 pm to
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This is false IMO. If aTm wins midweek, takes 2/3 from OM in an unimpressive series and then goes winless in the SEC tourney I don't think they would get a national seed.

They would need to win the OM series decisively, optimally sweeping it, to have a shot at locking up a national seed before the tourney. If they don't dominate the series, they will need to win a couple in the tourney I think.


It is more about final result, not about if its 10-0 or 10-9. The committee will see 46 wins, 20 wins in the SEC, a top 5 RPI, and a strong record vs the top 25 and 50.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:18 pm to
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This is false IMO. If aTm wins midweek, takes 2/3 from OM in an unimpressive series and then goes winless in the SEC tourney I don't think they would get a national seed.

They would need to win the OM series decisively, optimally sweeping it, to have a shot at locking up a national seed before the tourney. If they don't dominate the series, they will need to win a couple in the tourney I think.


It is more about final result, not about if its 10-0 or 10-9. The committee will see 46 wins, 20 wins in the SEC, a top 5 RPI, and a strong record vs the top 25 and 50.


If they go 3-1 this week but 0-2 in the tournament i highly doubt they would have a top 5 rpi. That's 3-3 overall and their rpi is 8 at the moment.
Posted by Farmer1906
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:26 pm to
Guess we will just have to wait and see. A lot depends on everyone else. 3 road wins will do a lot expescially when OM is as high as they are.

In other news. From D1 Chat (Kendall) on injured Texas A&M ace Tyler Stub.

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Rumor has it that he might pitch tomorrow night, but sources close to the situation have said he probably won't. So, who knows on Stubblefield. I know he's been throwing for a while now, the Aggies could really use him if he's healthy.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:28 pm to
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It is more about final result, not about if its 10-0 or 10-9.


It absolutely matters. A bubble team that is struggling and lost 3 of its last 5 series (assuming aTm takes the OM series) may not get the nod over a team that has finished it's season on a tear. That's how these things work out sometimes.

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The committee will see 46 wins, 20 wins in the SEC, a top 5 RPI, and a strong record vs the top 25 and 50.


If aTm goes 3-1 to end the regular season and then 0-2 in the tourney they won't have 46 wins or 20 conference wins. Also, they likely wouldn't have a top 5 RPI at that point.

Posted by Farmer1906
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:38 pm to
A few more notes from the chat.

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Auburn, Arkansas, Kentucky, and Missouri -- still okay for regionals? Their RPI's moved in the wrong direction this past weekend

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I'm not worried about Arkansas, despite the RPI, but the other three are all very much on the bubble. That Kentucky-Missouri series might very well amount to an elimination series for at-large hopes. Auburn absolutely cannot get swept at Florida, and even if it loses two out of three, it could be in trouble. 14 SEC wins is usually safe, but 13 is precarious. 12 is not enough.
-Fitt



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What does Texas A&M need to do in its series at Ole Miss and in the SEC Tournament to secure a national seed? Any thoughts on the Aggies' pitching staff, which was just in disarray over the weekend?


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Chris,
There's zero doubt A&M's pitching staff is a glaring question mark right now, and I wrote as much during the LSU series. Mark Ecker reminds me a lot of LSU RHP Jesse Stallings in the sense that he has big-time velo, but throws everything on a straight line. Him getting that SL/CB going is a big key for him. I would look for A&M to use Corbin Martin and Rex Hill a lot more this weekend and moving forward.
-KR


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Hey guys. I was just wondering what y'all thought about Missouri's chances of making the postseason after last week. Is it as simple as: win the Kentucky series and they're in, or is there more to it. The RPI is not where it should be, but 14 conference wins is usually good enough in the SEC. What are y'all's thoughts?

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Thomas,
A Kentucky series win definitely would help. We will have to evaluate Missouri tomorrow night. Right now, without delving into other teams' resumes, I would probably have Missouri out with an RPI in the 50s and a 7-14 mark vs. RPI Top 50 teams. The conference record is good, but damn, those other metrics are bleh.

-KR


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If it comes down to FSU vs. Florida does FSU stand the better chance of getting a National Seed based on winning the regular season series between the two?


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It helps a bit, but those were all midweek games, so I don't think it's an overriding factor. But right now, I think Florida State has the better resume anyway.

-Fitt



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How is FSU's resume better than UF's? I get that the RPI is higher, but UF has better non-conf SOS, similar record vs top 25, FSU has two losses vs RPI 100 . A close midweek series win shouldn't mean much. And UF has not been swept once, but FSU was swept at Notre Dame and actually lost a series at Georgia.
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You make some fair points, certainly -- I think they are close. FSU gets the edge because of that slightly higher RPI and that 16-10 mark vs. the top 50, compared with Florida's 11-7, and because of the head-to-head results. Gators have three series losses against bubble teams (Ole Miss, Kentucky, Missouri). FSU has one series loss very early against a non-regional team (Georgia), a series loss to a team that will be in regionals (Notre Dame), and a tough road series loss to Louisville. It's close, but I like FSU's body of work a bit more.
-Fitt

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If Florida wins the series with Auburn, does the SEC Tournament mean anything to UF in terms of the national seed?


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Bryan,
Sure it does, especially if A&M takes care of business this weekend, and the SEC is only going to get two national seeds (if that's the case). I still like Florida's chances right now, however.

-KR



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If Bama sneaks into the SEC tournament, would they then make the NCAAs?

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Barney,
Not happening for Alabama without sweeping this weekend, or just winning the SEC tournament. Bama still has an extremely poor mark in conference and has a 7-15 mark vs. RPI top 50 teams. That's not even close to a postseason team right now, and rightfully so. But guess what? Things can change

-KR

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Has lsu locked up a national seed?


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Yep. Signed, Sealed, Delivered. IMO.
-KR



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Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:39 pm to
So he just completely ignored the A&M/Ole Miss question?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:40 pm to
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So he just completely ignored the A&M/Ole Miss question?


That's the first thing I noticed as well.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50412 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:41 pm to
He answered the pitching part of it.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96013 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:42 pm to
Right that's what i'm saying. Ignored the first half of the question.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:43 pm to
Yup
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:44 pm to
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and I don't put anything past the voters, I could see LSU anywhere from 1-3 as of right now.


exactly. I'm about positive LSU has never been the #1 overall seed in the NCAA tournament, even in all their championship seasons.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:44 pm to
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If Florida wins the series with Auburn, does the SEC Tournament mean anything to UF in terms of the national seed?

Bryan, Sure it does, especially if A&M takes care of business this weekend, and the SEC is only going to get two national seeds (if that's the case). I still like Florida's chances right now, however.


Interesting.


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Has lsu locked up a national seed?

Yep. Signed, Sealed, Delivered. IMO.


Don't agree with him here. If LSU takes 2/3 then it's locked up IMO.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50412 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:48 pm to
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If Florida wins the series with Auburn, does the SEC Tournament mean anything to UF in terms of the national seed?

Bryan, Sure it does, especially if A&M takes care of business this weekend, and the SEC is only going to get two national seeds (if that's the case). I still like Florida's chances right now, however.



Interesting.

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This is BS. If UF and A&M are clearly each one of the top 8 then why the hell not? If its down to the wire and 2 teams are close I could see taking the non SEC team, but not if A&M & UF are just superior.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:49 pm to
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This is BS. If UF and A&M are clearly each one of the top 8 then why the hell not? If its down to the wire and 2 teams are close I could see taking the non SEC team, but not if A&M & UF are just superior.


If aTm and UF are vastly superior they may take 3 SEC teams, but if there's any argument for a non-SEC host being taken over either one it will happen. Even if the SEC team has the better record and RPI.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:53 pm to
If they lose the next 6 games then maybe not. Even then it's cutting it close.
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