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re: Baseball America Preseason Top 25

Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:25 pm to
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Not even in top four in the SEC, not even the best place to watch a game in Mississippi.



Weak Troll Bro
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:27 pm to
The new Box, Baum, Carolina Stadium, and Swayze are all much better facilities.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:27 pm to
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You keep saying stuff like past results don't indicate future success (which is mostly true) but you haven't once acknowledged our recruiting, which is a pretty good factor to use to indicate future success.

When did you acknowledge our recruiting? I must have missed it.

Sorry -- I deal in tangible matters. And kids being good highschool players and/or had a really good tournament when Kendall Rogers was watching isn't what I describe as tangible.

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You also keep bringing up the fact that because Tanner left, we can't keep winning.

Yeah -- I never once said that.

I said it was ridiculous for your fanbase to ascertain that the rest of us should just consider Holbrook an extension of Tanner -- who was a once-in-a-generation coach for you. No one has claimed you are going to fade into obscurity. But it takes a special coach with special players to know how to win with the bright lights on in the postseason -- and Holbrook simply hasn't proven a damn thing yet.

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Nevermind that Holbrook took us to game 3 of the Supers against national seed UNC and we have an excellent staff surrounding him.

Again -- here you are wanting a pat on the back for falling a step short of the 2 teams I rated above you for this season. Cohen went on the road to this year's #1, shoved it up their arse, and didn't need a third game -- and I don't need anyone to tell me how great he is for it either.

I guess you've never heard of Butch Thompson either, right?

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Also, quit comparing our coaching change situation to that of LSU's. That's worse than us bringing up our past success.

Who would you prefer that I compare him to then? Smoke is the best possible comparison in college baseball in the last decade or so. You just don't like the comparison because you know where it ended in that Smoke ultimately failed at LSU. He was JUST as good in his first year as Holbrook -- and even took them to Omaha in years 2 and 3. So, again, please use facts to invalidate the comparison -- if you can?
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:31 pm to
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Ironic State fans rag on other fans about past years, when they're using last year as why they'll be good this year.


Yeah -- you are talking out of your arse again.

No one is using last year as anything. We know what we've got coming in and coming back -- and we're simply telling you to prepare your anuses.

Of course, we already know you will talk mad shite and then disappear as soon as Cohen goes balls deep and you managed to get bbq'd in Manhattan, Kansas.
Posted by Tds & Beer
TOT DAT MOFAN~DRIP DRIP~Bunty Pls
Member since Sep 2009
23860 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:34 pm to
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I guess that's why Mississippi State is constantly voted the best place to watch college baseball.




Not even in top four in the SEC


He wasn't talking about college baseball. He was talking about baseball.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Member since Sep 2009
23860 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

The new Box, Baum, Carolina Stadium, and Swayze are all much better facilities.



Didn't say top facility. Said best place to watch a game.
Posted by gamecocks22
SC
Member since Dec 2012
4913 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:36 pm to
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please use facts to invalidate the comparison -- if you can?



I could make the point that Holbrook is just as responsible as Tanner for the recent success. We didn't start playing for 3 titltes in a row til he got here. He was part of the CWS finals 5 times in 7 years if you include his time at UNC. Then he comes to us and what do you know, back to back titles. He was the main asst and recruiter on teams that made it to the finals 5 times in 7 years. Must just be coincedence..

Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

The new Box, Baum, Carolina Stadium, and Swayze are all much better facilities.


Changing the whole argument to "better" now bro? Congrats on finally surpassing our stadium more than 20 years after it's completion.

We're in the early design process of demolishing and building a new one BTW.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Member since Sep 2009
23860 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:40 pm to
Engie, chill out. You don't have to persuade everyone on the site into fapping us yet. The time will come.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted by gamecocks22
SC
Member since Dec 2012
4913 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:42 pm to
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Engie, chill out. You don't have to persuade everyone on the site into fapping us yet. The time will come.


Exactly. We are not that impressed by you coming in 2nd one year. Make it back and win it and I will congratulate you ASAP
Posted by Tds & Beer
TOT DAT MOFAN~DRIP DRIP~Bunty Pls
Member since Sep 2009
23860 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Engie, chill out. You don't have to persuade everyone on the site into fapping us yet. The time will come.


Exactly.


So you agree that we will be the best. Thanks, bro
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted by gamecocks22
SC
Member since Dec 2012
4913 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:47 pm to
Yeah I agree. Is that all you guys want? For someone else to say yall are good.......

MSU is a good baseball team. There.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:52 pm to
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MSU is a good baseball team. There.


Link facts pls.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

I could make the point that Holbrook is just as responsible as Tanner for the recent success.

Conjecture with 0% chance of knowing for sure.

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We didn't start playing for 3 titltes in a row til he got here.

So, all this magic happened because he was hired to the staff. Had nothing to do with Tanner and the players he recruited before Holbrook got there did it?(this is where I have to explain how baseball recruiting runs a year behind hire dates to a bunch of people that still won't understand it)

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He was part of the CWS finals 5 times in 7 years if you include his time at UNC. Then he comes to us and what do you know, back to back titles. He was the main asst and recruiter on teams that made it to the finals 5 times in 7 years. Must just be coincedence..

He won ZERO titles without Ray Tanner. Zero. And UNC has obviously taken a MAJOR step back in his absence. Seems he was clearly the key to all of their success.

Look -- I'm not saying he's great or that he's terrible -- but he has not done a DAMN THING for the rest of us to anoint him as the next Ray Tanner yet -- nor has he even conclusively proven himself as a worthy successor. You obviously "believe" in him and that is fine -- he will have plenty of chances to prove it. But my post was about the here and now -- and here and now, he has proven less than Cohen and Mainieri as a head coach -- and less than O'Sullivan, Corbin, Van Horn, and others if you want to get technical about it. Using an assistant coaching tenure at baseball powerhouses to try to project a guy as one of the best head coaches in the league is the most laughable part of all this. Not saying that it won't work out to be true -- just saying that it's completely impossible to project at this point.

This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:55 pm to
This is what I do with baseball.

I work them into a frenzy in the preseason. Then they totally lose their minds when I end up being right.

But you are correct -- they will see for themselves soon enough.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5879 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:57 pm to
Holy shite, we get it. You hate USC baseball, think they're a step behind Miss State, and Holbrook is a bum.

Now shut the frick up already.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:59 pm to
You must not get it.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:59 pm to
We made it!!!
Posted by gamecocks22
SC
Member since Dec 2012
4913 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:00 pm to

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He won ZERO titles


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is the most laughable part of all this


A State fan making jabs about not winning a championship is now the most laughable.

So many titles right?
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