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re: AP Releases it's top 100 CBB programs of all time
Posted on 3/29/17 at 3:47 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 3/29/17 at 3:47 pm to lsupride87
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Only slightly below? Really?
Yup. Winning 3-4 games in a row against conference opponents on a neutral floor is a big deal.
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 3:53 pm to the808bass
quote:I am still confused if you are being sarcastic or not
Yup. Winning 3-4 games in a row against conference opponents on a neutral floor is a big deal.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 3:55 pm to the808bass
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I saw Dayton was 76 which is laughable if AU is 80
Dayton has a pretty rich history. Doctor friend of mine played on FF team there.
Yup, only thing in comparison that AU has going for them is AU is in a bigger conference
Posted on 3/29/17 at 3:55 pm to Korin
quote:Ask and you shall receive sweet prince
I'd like to see a ranking that assigns points to NCAA titles, runners-up, Final Fours, Elite 8s, and Sweet 16s. Something like this:
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SEC Tournament Title (or other league post-1933) = 2 points
SEC Regular Season Title (or other league post-1933) = 2 points
NCAA Tournament Appearance = 1 point
NCAA Sweet 16 = 3 points
NCAA Elite 8 = 5 points
Final Four = 10 points
National Title = 20 points
1. Kentucky (843 pts)
2. Arkansas (220 pts)
3. Florida (205 pts)
4. LSU (142 pts)
5. Missouri (108 pts)
6. Alabama (75 pts)
7. Tennessee (72 pts)
8. Mississippi St (52 pts)
9. Georgia (45 pts)
9. Texas A&M (45 pts)
11. Vanderbilt (44 pts)
12. Auburn (31 pts)
13. South Carolina (29 pts)
14. Ole Miss (15 pts)
courtesy of summerofgeorge
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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SummerOfGeorge
AP Releases it's top 100 CBB programs of all time by SummerOfGeorge
I don't disagree with your final assessment but you left off SEC Tournament Championships, which pretty clearly shows the prism you view this through.
I don't disagree with your SEC Tournament Championship metric, which I DID leave off but definitely should have included.
Alabama does have more SEC Tournament Championships than LSU. That does count for something.
And I am totally not disagreeing that Alabama should be in the top 30, or at worst top 35.
However, LSU should also be at least in that vicinity as they better in all the other metrics.
Sorry maybe I shouldn't have compared LSU only to Alabama, but to others in the say...28-35 range.
But....47th ???? Really ?????
WTevrlvngF ???????
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:21 pm to lsupride87
According to that metric I think we should be tied with Vandy now.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:40 pm to lsupride87
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Ask and you shall receive sweet prince
Nope, not outside factors like other conference titles though.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:41 pm to Glorious
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:47 pm to Korin
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1. Kentucky: 446
2. Arkansas: 116
2. Florida: 116
4. LSU: 66
5. Missouri: 34
6. Alabama : 20
7. Tennessee 18
7. South Carolina : 18
9. Mississippi St : 16
9. Vanderbilt: 16
11. Georgia: 14
12. Auburn: 12
13. Texas A&M: 8
14. Ole Miss: 2
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Thanks. 
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:48 pm to kilo
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Because Alabama and Mizzou have better basketball programs than Arkansas historically.
No they don't
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:51 pm to Korin
Tournament Wins
1. Kentucky - 126
2. Florida - 45
3. Arkansas - 42
4. LSU - 24
5. Missouri - 22
6. Alabama - 20
7. Tennessee - 19
8. Auburn - 12
9. Mississippi St - 11
9. Texas A&M - 11
11. Vanderbilt - 10
12. South Carolina - 8
13. Georgia - 7
14. Ole Miss - 5
1. Kentucky - 126
2. Florida - 45
3. Arkansas - 42
4. LSU - 24
5. Missouri - 22
6. Alabama - 20
7. Tennessee - 19
8. Auburn - 12
9. Mississippi St - 11
9. Texas A&M - 11
11. Vanderbilt - 10
12. South Carolina - 8
13. Georgia - 7
14. Ole Miss - 5
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I knew there would be a huge gap after first but fairly surprised at the gap after 3rd
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:55 pm to rockiee
LSU basically goes to the Final Four or bombs out. They've been to 4 Final Fours and only have slight leads on Alabama, Mizzou and Tennessee who have been to none (and only 1 Elite 8 each).
LSU has punched their ticket while Tennessee and Alabama have repeatedly blown it in the Sweet 16.
LSU has punched their ticket while Tennessee and Alabama have repeatedly blown it in the Sweet 16.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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They've been to 4 Final Fours and only have slight leads on Alabama, Mizzou and Tennessee who have been to none.
Ya, that really says a lot. I would have thought they were somewhere in the low 30s.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:06 pm to Glorious
Texas AM too high.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:14 pm to Glorious
Are we the highest (Football/Basketball) combined team or is it UCLA?
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Given how many of Florida's wins have been in the last 20 years, I think we might be a fringe Top 5 team since 2000- Duke, UNC, KU and UK I'd put over Florida but then its what UF, UConn and MSU those three seem really close
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:21 pm to montanagator
It is a bit misleading as there are many more games now than there were even in 1985.
If you were good recently you get at least 1 extra win per tournament.
If you were good recently you get at least 1 extra win per tournament.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
What a dumb list. CBB is a tournament sport. Teams are put together with the intent of being able to win in a tournament format at the end of the year. Any measurement that doesn't take into account tournament results is useless.
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