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re: Anyone else think the Playoff will be disastrous?
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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just because the best beat the best we ought to arbitrarily cut them out of the deal?
What does that even mean...?
Isn't that what happens in every other sport?
Who was the best team in the NFL in 2007?
16-0 New England who beat the New York Giants 38-35 @ NY?
Or the Giants because they won the Super Bowl?
2007 Giants = Champions.
2007 Patriots = best team.
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Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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If the SEC just happens to produce two of the best teams in the country (Alabama and Auburn) just because the best beat the best we ought to arbitrarily cut them out of the deal?
many years yes you should
should the SEC Championship include Alabama and Auburn again instead of Missouri and Auburn because the majority of people subjectively feel those are the best two teams?
Too much of college football is about voting program name recognition or preseason predictions instead of looking at how good different teams were in a given year.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:03 pm to molsusports
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the argument would be the same as why you don't include multiple AFC teams and fewer NFC teams when there are more good teams from the AFC.
No, it wouldn't.
The sole reason for having wild card teams is because the NFL realizes that, often, two of the best teams are in the same division.
The conference champions argument is bullshite until the other conferences can field multiple decent teams.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:04 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Actually, the old system was the biggest disaster and that lasted for 60 years. In that system, you rarely got a #1 vs. #2 in a bowl game and everything was decided by the polls. That was the worst and robbed us tons of great potential matchups like Miami vs. Washington in 1991, Penn State vs. Nebraska in 1994 and Michigan vs. Nebraska in 1997. The BCS was a huge improvement and a four-game playoff if done right will be an improvement over the current system as well.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:05 pm to Evolved Simian
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The sole reason for having wild card teams is because the NFL realizes that, often, two of the best teams are in the same division.
don't be a clown
the NFL has expanded the playoffs and will likely soon expand the playoffs again because they want more games to televise to make more money.
it has nothing to do with wanting to let in more teams from teh same division because that is the fair thing to do.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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2007 Giants = Champions.
No, because they didn't win their division. Therefore, they were not eligible for a playoff, right LSU fan?
This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:05 pm to molsusports
the concerns are valid. picking 4 teams this year would cause a lot of butt hurt.
an 8 team playoff at minimum is coming.
an 8 team playoff at minimum is coming.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:05 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I don't know, they'll look at the resume and have a debate, but Notre Dame won't be up for debate. Do you really not think this is the case? How old are you?
You use an ad hominem in spite of not being smart enough to understand that -someone- is getting put out simply on clout alone. So we're going to say that the Big XII and possibly the PAC-12 might be shafted one year? ACC, SEC, Notre Dame and Big X?
You don't think leaving out a few power conferences who posted the same numbers as other conferences isn't going to piss someone off? That isn't going to be unfair at all?
What's wrong with choosing the Top 4 teams every year?
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:05 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
quote:Yes. Because with the BCS only 3 or 4 teams at the most usually have a legit argument for be 1 or 2. With a Playoff there are going to be 10 or so teams that can argue they should be in the playoff. So there will be more problems than the BCS has had on a given year.
Anyone else think the Playoff will be disastrous?
This year FSU, Auburn, Bama, MSU, OSU, and Baylor at least would be able to argue for top 4. With 1 loss teams like UCF, Fresno, Louisville, and maybe NIU being like Boise was with the BCS. Where as the BCS seems to have most of the voters top 2 in the game.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:05 pm to molsusports
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don't be a clown
Wish I had read this before picking my major.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:08 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:He brought that up to make a specific point about the best team.
No, because they didn't win their division. Therefore, they were not eligible for a playoff, right LSU fan?
NFL and college are different systems and aren't relevant comparisons.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:12 pm to Rabern57
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This year FSU, Auburn, Bama, MSU, OSU, and Baylor at least would be able to argue for top 4. With 1 loss teams like UCF, Fresno, Louisville, and maybe NIU being like Boise was with the BCS. Where as the BCS seems to have most of the voters top 2 in the game.
This is another problem: This will almost certainly monopolize the system. How on Earth is any team outside of the power conferences going to get to the NCG? Or are we just going to take four undefeated/1 loss teams? Why should they even play, really?
This is going to be worse unless there's an expansion.
This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:13 pm to cattus
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NFL and college are different systems and aren't relevant comparisons.
yes, and unlike most every other sport (notably college basketball but also including most other major sports like the NFL and MLB and the NBA) college football still has a highly relevant regular season.
In college football what happens in September and October is supposed to matter at the end of the year and that is what makes the regular season games so watchable and the stadium experience in college football so incredible. The consequences of winning and losing are larger and that is what makes for a superior product.
I hate that the NFL and MLB (and esp college basketball) have so devalued their regular seasons. It is stupid that a team like the Giants can win the Super Bowl when they were just not in the discussion for one of the top teams in football for most of the year. It is terrible that a .500 team like the Cardinals (from half a dozen years ago) can make the playoffs, get hot at the right time and be crowned champion for the entire year.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:18 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You use an ad hominem in spite of not being smart enough to understand that -someone- is getting put out simply on clout alone. So we're going to say that the Big XII and possibly the PAC-12 might be shafted one year? ACC, SEC, Notre Dame and Big X?
You don't think leaving out a few power conferences who posted the same numbers as other conferences isn't going to piss someone off? That isn't going to be unfair at all?
What's wrong with choosing the Top 4 teams every year?
I'm not arguing fairness. I'm just saying you might be 15 or 16 years old if you think an undefeated Notre Dame doesn't make it in to a playoff in favor of a one loss Baylor or a one loss Michigan State.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:18 pm to molsusports
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I hate that the NFL and MLB (and esp college basketball) have so devalued their regular seasons.
MLB's regular season isn't devalued at all. There has only been one team with fewer than 90 wins that has won a World Series since the 2000 season. Even the Cardinals team that got hot towards the end of the season and won the World Series ended up winning 90 games that year. They were a damn good team. Pretty much every World Series champion is.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:20 pm to TeLeFaWx
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years old if you think an undefeated Notre Dame doesn't make it in to a playoff in favor of a one loss Baylor or a one loss Michigan State.
You're frickin' stupid. I said: Who gets the shaft? That's the important part, dimwit. We're leaving conference champions out in spite of three of them having the -same record-.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:20 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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How on Earth is any team outside of the power conferences going to get to the NCG?
Notre Dame will make it. Teams outside the power conferences haven't played for the national title ever, so why is this a problem now?
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This is going to be worse unless there's an expansion.
Your list of complaints aren't changing with the playoff, and have been here with the current system... How old are you?
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:20 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
It won't stay 4 teams for long. It won't be disastrous in the way you think it will. From the athletic point of view it will be ok to determine a "champion". From the financial side it will turn CFB into a cesspool much like basketball. Eventually the money will be so great and greed being greed that a new 24 - 30 team super conference will emerge to keep the money to themselves.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:22 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You're frickin' stupid. I said: Who gets the shaft? That's the important part, dimwit. We're leaving conference champions out in spite of three of them having the -same record-.
And I said, I don't know with certainty, but those three teams will not be all in over an undefeated Notre Dame. Why can't you understand that?
Posted on 12/8/13 at 4:22 pm to Bench McElroy
TBH the random Mariner game I go to does seem ho hum when there are 180 games in the season 
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