re: Anyone else think the Playoff will be disastrous?

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I don't think anyone can make an argument for why Bama shouldn't go in the place of MSU or even Baylor while they're simultaneously ranked lower (or ought to be).

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Because you don't know how the rankings will be affected by people that know a championship on the line. A one loss team capable of winning the B1G? Human voters will place them within striking distance of a team that is eliminated from consideration because they know of the implications. Especially regional voters. Michigan State would have been much higher than Bama and leapfrogged them with the win almost unanimously, simply because of the precedent. You'll see voters start to frame their votes much more on conference standings.

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if almost every year there aren't 2 sec teams in this 4 team playoff, then u don't have the best 4 teams in America IMO.

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Regardless of how right you may be....the comittee will never let that happen. At least thats my opinion.

a 4-team playoff with the selection committee is just going to have the same problems people complain about with the BCS system

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.the comittee will never let that happen. At least thats my opinion.

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And that's my problem. They're not picking the best four, they're picking the four that either draw the most money or appeal to their sensibilities.

Yes, because the second they prefer conference champs over better teams it loses all credibility.

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a 4-team playoff with the selection committee is just going to have the same problems people complain about with the BCS system

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fricking this.

Teams that would -never- get invited to the playoff: Notre Dame (since they can't win their conference???), Boise State from year's past, Louisville last year, any Big East champion, any Mountain West champ. List goes on and on, because the top four are obviously going to be drawn from:

PAC-12, SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12. Even there we're going to have a problem.

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8 teams is a much better system to me. I like the best teams playing for it, not preferential treatment for winning your terrible conf. Granted, I'm a bama fan, and I'm biased, I know, I know. Mulligan blah blah blah. But if you don't think bama /LSU weren't the 2 best teams in 2011, then you don't know much about football IMO. I'm sec biased also, if almost every year there aren't 2 sec teams in this 4 team playoff, then u don't have the best 4 teams in America IMO.

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What frustrates me about this, is that even if Alabama was one of the two most talented teams, they had en epic collapse at home. No matter how talented you are, if you don't put it together enough to even win your conference, you don't deserve to play for the national title. That's just my opinion, and I understand your opinion, but a mulligan is a bad system, and everyone knows it. Bama/LSU is the reason the college football playoff is even happening because you shouldn't be able to go 1-1 against a team and claim a natty, when that team had to play one of those games on the road, and had to play in a conference championship game. It's just poor form, and the BCS's biggest failure.

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if we're installing it to make it more 'fair', then how do we fairly get the teams in without shunning a few with similar records?

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Any system that's built around taking the 4 favorite teams will be inherently unfair.

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Teams that would -never- get invited to the playoff: Notre Dame (since they can't win their conference???)

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Notre Dame, if undefeated, or one loss, will get invited. You're too young if you think otherwise.

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Boise State from year's past, Louisville last year, any Big East champion, any Mountain West champ. List goes on and on, because the top four are obviously going to be drawn from:

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Good.

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PAC-12, SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12.

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So? All BCS Champs have come from these conferences.

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Even there we're going to have a problem.

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We will have problems, but it is a far better system than what we have now.

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Notre Dame, if undefeated, or one loss, will get invited. You're too young if you think otherwise.

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And they're going to be chosen over a 1 loss Ohio State, Auburn, Alabama, FSU, Oregon, Stanford or any other big name school?

I can't imagine someone not even playing an extra game is going to jump a team that won a conference and is ranked 4th just to get Notre Dame in and if you don't see a problem with that you're delusional.

Far better system? I don't see it.