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re: Anthem Protest Backfires
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:29 pm to CCTider
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:29 pm to CCTider
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You're comparing those two things? Kneeling during the national anthem and protesting a fallen soldier's funeral?
They're actually quite similar. Both are designed to grab attention during moments where it's customary to show a modicum of patriotism/respect.
As easily as those who support the anthem protests can say, "it's not about the flag, it's about our cause," those who protest funerals can rationalize similarly.
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wanting someone punished for offending makes you no better than a sjw.
Maybe I missed a previous post of his, but he didn't advocate for punishment in the post you responded to. He drew a parallel.
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:37 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I understand that. But a soldier isn't just a soldier. It's Ann actual dead human, with family grieving on the worst day of their lives. That's causing mental anguish for an individual that's in pain. It's not just a symbol of sacrifice.
Eta: I may have jumped the gun on the second part. I'm so sick of the story, it's all starting to run together.
Eta: I may have jumped the gun on the second part. I'm so sick of the story, it's all starting to run together.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:39 pm to ChiTownBammer
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So you think I made up the fact that I've heard people in town say that
No, I fully believe that one of your dumbass buddies told you that he heard that from some dude he knows that "works at the school," or something like that. Or did Saban start a new policy that allows all Tuscaloosa residents full access to the locker room?
Those asshats at the diner might say one thing, but I heard some "allegations" from my boys at the barber shop that you are full of shite.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:41 pm to CCTider
I hear ya. Honestly, I'm just so fricking sick of the whole thing. Sports and patriotism are two things that usually bring people together and allow us to escape from the myriad of day to day struggles we ALL have to contend with, and this gets in the way of that, so it's irking me a bit.
Ok, more than a bit
Ok, more than a bit
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:49 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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To be fair, I've heard it said that he had become "toxic" in the locker room and as a result some were glad to see him go.
The nature of the "toxic" was not elaborated upon though.
This is what I expected to happen once he lost the job. Blake never came across as humble. Losing his job to a freshman must've been a huge ego blow. And he doesn't seem like the type to be quiet about it. Though I might just be judging him on that punchable face of his.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:50 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I hear ya. Honestly, I'm just so fricking sick of the whole thing. Sports and patriotism are two things that usually bring people together and allow us to escape from the myriad of day to day struggles we ALL have to contend with, and this gets in the way of that, so it's irking me a bit.
Ok, more than a bit
Well said. I don't see who is truly benefiting from these protests and they're definitely dividing people. The last thing we need right now is to be divided even further than we already are.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:51 pm to CaptSpaulding
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:52 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I hear ya. Honestly, I'm just so fricking sick of the whole thing. Sports and patriotism are two things that usually bring people together and allow us to escape from the myriad of day to day struggles we ALL have to contend with, and this gets in the way of that, so it's irking me a bit.
Ok, more than a bit
I've just been praying it goes away, and people quit paying attention to him/it. But I was pretty naive to think that it might.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:54 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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Well said. I don't see who is truly benefiting from these protests and they're definitely dividing people. The last thing we need right now is to be divided even further than we already are.
Well, CK is an overpaid backup who is getting more attention than when he led a team to the super bowl. So there's one. While he probably does believe in the cause, there's no doubt he's also thought about the money to be paid from the publicity. I'm sure him and his agent have talked it over.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:59 pm to CCTider
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I've just been praying it goes away, and people quit paying attention to him/it. But I was pretty naive to think that it might.
I was hoping for the same. It's turned into this year's "planking" or "tebowing" now, though. It'll burn itself out eventually, I guess.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:25 pm to CCTider
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Criticizing the government and it's policies is actually about the most American thing you can do.
I agree, but the ECU band in ECU band uniforms during an ECU football game is representing ECU. They're not separable. If they want to protest, fine, great, do it on your own time when not wearing an ECU band uniform. Hopefully they'll get that sometime soon. You can't do that crap and expect no repercussions. That said, "If these people don't like the US they can leave." is a bit over the top.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:54 pm to finestfirst79
quote:This.
the ECU band in ECU band uniforms during an ECU football game is representing ECU. They're not separable. If they want to protest, fine, great, do it on your own time when not wearing an ECU band uniform. Hopefully they'll get that sometime soon. You can't do that crap and expect no repercussions.
I totally get the idea of protesting. I stopped saying the Pledge of Allegiance about 4 years ago myself - just got sick and tired of vowing loyalty to a government that is led by people who clearly don't intend on returning the same. And no, that won't change no matter which party is in the White House or is running Congress.
But the ECU band is there to perform a specific service - to play the songs they are directed to play. They can't sit one out to satisfy a personal whim, no matter how noble they think their cause might be. If playing the NA is really that much of a violation of their personal principles, they should never have joined an organization where playing it was a requirement.
If I was the head of the Music Department at ECU I would tell them they are welcome to continue to participate in the band program, but not during public performances wherein they would be expected to play everything on the program. They could exercise their right of free speech by quitting.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:55 pm to jcolding41
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If these people don't like the US they can leave. I hope they know that.
Especially pasty face fatties in the band who are dripping with white guilt.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:56 pm to CCTider
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Well, CK is an overpaid backup who is getting more attention than when he led a team to the super bowl. So there's one. While he probably does believe in the cause, there's no doubt he's also thought about the money to be paid from the publicity. I'm sure him and his agent have talked it over.
He likely doesn't give two fricks about the issue. He's probably doing it for that chick he started dating in the off season who is very passionate about this issue. If he really cared, then he would have started taking a knee right when Ferguson, MO protests blew up and BLM became a mainstream thing. Where was he when those St. Louis players protested with "Hands up, Don't shoot" last year??? Oh that's right, not giving a frick.
Kapernick just trying to get laid. We've all been there; doing something we don't care for just to get some head.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:57 pm to ChiTownBammer
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I've been hearing...
bullshite. There were no issues when Sims beat out Coker. You haven't heard shite...not from anyone who's in a position to know anything.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:59 pm to ChiTownBammer
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Yes, I have.
Doesn't mean it's true. But the allegation is that's why Barnett left in the middle of the season. There was a divide in the locker room about who should start and it was split along racial lines.
Maybe you heard some fourth hand gossip. Most people with more brain cells than a turnip know better to believe everything one dumbass says to another
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:02 pm to Ramblin Wreck
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Noticed that Saban plays it safe by keeping players off the field during the anthem. Can't say I blame any coach for taking that approach.
This isn't a new thing. Most of the time the anthem is played well before kickoff, while the teams haven't run out yet.
In fact, it's like that for most college games all over the country as best I can tell and has been for some time.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:02 pm to ChiTownBammer
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Eat shite. I didn't make it up. I didn't say it was indisputable fact. I said that it's been said around town. I live in Tuscaloosa.
When something to this effect comes out in a week or three are you gonna come back and apologize?
Said around town? By who...the other seventeen year old dumbasses at your high school? Most people with two brain cells to rub together aren't so fricking stupid as to start posting about it on a message board.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:02 pm to IAmReality
You have a right to protest, you don't have a right to be in the band.
It's clear playing and respecting the national anthem is part of being in the band. If you can't do that, you should be kicked off.
It's clear playing and respecting the national anthem is part of being in the band. If you can't do that, you should be kicked off.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 12:26 am
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:04 pm to ChiTownBammer
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So you think I made up the fact that I've heard people in town say that?
No. We think you heard it from a couple of other dumbasses in your second period PE class and came on here repeating it like it had some merit. Grow the frick up.
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