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re: Anthem Protest Backfires
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:07 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:07 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Back to the topic at hand...
If it's OK for one football player to kneel during the anthem, it's ok for 50,000 fans to sit and laugh and talk and keep eating hot dogs while the anthem is being played while the other 50,000 stand in reverence.
Free speech is free speech.
If it's OK for one football player to kneel during the anthem, it's ok for 50,000 fans to sit and laugh and talk and keep eating hot dogs while the anthem is being played while the other 50,000 stand in reverence.
Free speech is free speech.
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:20 pm to BamaGradinTn
I would tear up my star players scholarship the first time he kneeled during the national anthem
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:22 pm to Bigtater
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I would tear up my star players scholarship the first time he kneeled during the national anthem
No you wouldn't because if you did, then you would have to rip ¾ of all other scholarships. Why do you think the Missouri football team went on strike?
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:27 pm to Chingon
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No you wouldn't because if you did, then you would have to rip ¾ of all other scholarships. Why do you think the Missouri football team went on strike?
Sure I would. The sacrifices my family made over seas for our freedoms is far greater than a football game.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:31 pm to ChiTownBammer
I like how you get downvoted because people just dont want to believe it
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:51 pm to RBu
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I like how you get downvoted because people just dont want to believe it
Agreed. As I said earlier I hope it's not true.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 11:19 pm to ChiTownBammer
For all those individuals who posted in this tread about the players kneeling in protest of the military and veterans please share an article, quote or tv clip of any individual stating that they are protesting military or veterans. I'll bet you would be hard pressed to find any
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:28 am to DonBro
Football players doing this is one thing(which I do not agree with). But the band? The bands members scholarships is based that they preform when asked to. So if some choose to not play (when told to) as in the playing of the anthem.... kick their sorry assess off the team the same as any foot ball player refusing to play the game.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:16 am to jcolding41
Anyone who says this is an idiot. The US government doesn't follow it's own rules or the USC so why don't we all leave? Better yet how about we create something better than this?
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 3:34 am
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:28 am to finestfirst79
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First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
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"In spite of my shattered dreams of the past, I came to Birmingham with the hope that the white religious leadership of this community would see the justice of our cause, and with deep moral concern, serve as the channel through which our just grievances would get to the power structure. I had hoped that each of you would understand. But again I have been disappointed. I have heard numerous religious leaders of the South call upon their worshippers to comply with a desegregation decision because it is the law, but I have longed to hear white ministers say, "follow this decree because integration is morally right and the Negro is your brother." In the midst of blatant injustices inflicted upon the Negro, I have watched white churches stand on the sideline and merely mouth pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities. In the midst of a mighty struggle to rid our nation of racial and economic injustice, I have heard so many ministers say, "those are social issues with which the gospel has no real concern.", and I have watched so many churches commit themselves to a completely other-worldly religion which made a strange distinction between body and soul, the sacred and the secular.
So here we are moving toward the exit of the twentieth century with a religious community largely adjusted to the status quo, standing as a tail-light behind other community agencies rather than a headlight leading men to higher levels of justice."
Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Letter From The Birmingham Jail"
April 16, 1963
Posted on 10/5/16 at 6:21 am to crimsonandwhite
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The bands members scholarships is based that they preform when asked to.
There is some logic to this. A band member standing in formation playing the anthem is "running the play" the way the "coach" drew it up. If Calvin Ridley decides to start taking a knee at the beginning of every play because he's protesting something, the first time would be the last time.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 6:29 am to ChiTownBammer
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I've been hearing there're some racial issues in the Alabama locker room this year. Supposedly had something to do with the Barnett situation.
The rednecks you hang out with that wanted the white guy should not be considered reliable sources.
The only Barnett 'situation' is he lost the job to a better player and lacked the maturity to deal it it in an adult fashion.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 6:35 am to RBu
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I like how you get downvoted because people just dont want to believe it
He gets downvoted because there are people on this board who have repeatedly proven to have legitimate inside access and they have not posted anything remotely suggesting a locker room issue.
The truth is you upvoted for the sole reason that you WANT it to be true.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 6:36 am to Ramblin Wreck
Saban likely agrees with the protest. He is a democrat.
Most teams are in the locker room for the anthem anyways.
Most teams are in the locker room for the anthem anyways.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 6:59 am to bigman334
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not really a backfire. to some, the cause is bigger than a game. key word is some.
There is no cause, it's all about attention.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 7:18 am to BamaGradinTn
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bullshite. There were no issues when Sims beat out Coker. You haven't heard shite...not from anyone who's in a position to know anything.
To be fair, Coker never indicated he was an entitled, self-absorbed douche like Barnett has.
Coker was just a down-home 251 boy who worked hard but got beat in camp. Barnett came in with the big head.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 7:53 am to stomp
Saban runs a tight ship. He wouldn't tolerate infighting one little bit.
Barnett turned out to be an immature, spoiled brat who wasn't ready to face the cold hard reality of high level competitive collegiate athletics.
I can guarantee you every single player remaining on that team resents Barnett for turning out to be such a little bitch.
Barnett turned out to be an immature, spoiled brat who wasn't ready to face the cold hard reality of high level competitive collegiate athletics.
I can guarantee you every single player remaining on that team resents Barnett for turning out to be such a little bitch.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:40 am to ChiTownBammer
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Doesn't mean it's true. But the allegation is that's why Barnett left in the middle of the season. There was a divide in the locker room about who should start and it was split along racial lines.
Racial lines? Barnett and the kickers must have really been pissed off.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:32 am to Carolina Tide
Even though POTUS who is arrogant enough to think he is bigger than the country, he is not. He is a person, just a person who, the national anthem and that flag represents this great country, and is more important than any one position within the government.
POTUS is all about globalism and defending domestic terrorist groups like BLM and not propping up radical Islam or hiding away from it. Him with his "globalism" that he so proudly ranted about at his last United Nations speech will undo what America stands for and is built upon. He is all about division of the American people and not unity, he proudly supports racist individuals and groups and their beliefs. He often degrades the American people when speaking globally. He and his corrupt, liberal American hating administration including Clinton and all their minions are not the flag or the anthem.
Therefore you are clearly missing the point on what is important. When you claim hypocrisy and saying disrespecting the POTUS who is against the American way and the identity of what American is is the same as disrespecting the flag or anthem. They are a true representation of this country and all he is is someone who holds an office who respects this country and its ideals about as much as those idiots who kneel.
POTUS is all about globalism and defending domestic terrorist groups like BLM and not propping up radical Islam or hiding away from it. Him with his "globalism" that he so proudly ranted about at his last United Nations speech will undo what America stands for and is built upon. He is all about division of the American people and not unity, he proudly supports racist individuals and groups and their beliefs. He often degrades the American people when speaking globally. He and his corrupt, liberal American hating administration including Clinton and all their minions are not the flag or the anthem.
Therefore you are clearly missing the point on what is important. When you claim hypocrisy and saying disrespecting the POTUS who is against the American way and the identity of what American is is the same as disrespecting the flag or anthem. They are a true representation of this country and all he is is someone who holds an office who respects this country and its ideals about as much as those idiots who kneel.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:39 am to ChiTownBammer
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I've been hearing there're some racial issues in the Alabama locker room this year
Its on the field too.
Hurts over throws every white receiver we have.
He underthrows all of the black receivers.
I'm sure that's racially motivated.
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