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re: Almost SEC baseball season: SEC West predictions

Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by bas456
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:27 pm to
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Mississippi State returns virtually their entire team that won 40 games last year.


40 teams won 40 or more games last year.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:27 pm to
every year you hogs predict you'll finish higher than LSU and it never happens. maybe one day it will and i guess that's what keeps you going.
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30975 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:28 pm to
Your reasoning is pure garbage. To put it midly. Had you put something remotely factual, I would not argue with your rankings.

Arkansas finished 3rd in the nation a year ago. Did we miss that?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68316 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:28 pm to
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Think we'll be able to hit? It was so annoying watching us.



Try watching Stony freaking Brook come in and shut down your bats like we had to witness. 3 runs in our last 18 innings against them
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30975 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:30 pm to
At least all your fans high dived SB players though
Posted by bas456
Member since Nov 2012
54 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:31 pm to
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LSU vastly overachieved from a metric standpoint last year. The won't be statistically capable of staying that far ahead of extrapolated production.


Are you saying LSU won more games than the stats say they should have? In SEC games, LSU finished 4th in hitting, 3rd in pitching and 3rd in defense.
Posted by Gladius Veritas
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:34 pm to




Dave Van Horn bitches
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 1:35 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62773 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:35 pm to
Alabama baseball sucks so bad, this thread is in the fourth page and no Bama fan has posted complaining about the 7th place prediction.

Well, allow me to be the first.


#7? May be too high. When does Golf season start?
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:40 pm to
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d no Bama fan has posted complaining about the 7th place prediction.

Well, allow me to be the first.


#7? May be too high. When does Golf season start?


Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22815 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:53 pm to
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Your reasoning is pure garbage. To put it midly. Had you put something remotely factual, I would not argue with your rankings.

Arkansas finished 3rd in the nation a year ago. Did we miss that?


I said conference play jackass....Arkansas finished what 16-14 in conference or it may have been 15-15. Not exactly setting the conference on fire. Arkansas then traveled for regionals.

Yes they finished ranked #3 in the country. Doesn't change the fact that they didn't play as well in conference play as they should have. How many SEC teams did Arky beat in in regionals and Omaha?
Posted by BalladofBradSowell
Member since Nov 2012
812 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:54 pm to
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Are you saying LSU won more games than the stats say they should have? In SEC games, LSU finished 4th in hitting, 3rd in pitching and 3rd in defense.
Yes. In basic terms LSU scored 13% more runs than they should have based on their offensive statistics. (For comparison the actual SEC runs produced was only .02% difference of expected production) When you look at Pythagorean expectation using just extrapolated runs and runs allowed LSU would have about 6 less wins than they actually had (overall).

Wins are wins, and don't take this as a knock on LSU's season last year. It's relevant for projection purposes though. Teams will always vary from extrapolated production, but any difference over 3-5% should be expected to decrease significantly as the sample size increases. College baseball is always wild due to the relatively small sample size each season.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30975 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:56 pm to
We beat one SEC team in NCAA play. That's all we faced.
Posted by brodieneedsanol
Member since Jun 2011
373 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:57 pm to
FAHR CMG
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

In basic terms LSU scored 13% more runs than they should have based on their offensive statistics.


LSU was first in the SEC in runs scored and RBI.

Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5600 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:07 pm to
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I said conference play jackass....Arkansas finished what 16-14 in conference or it may have been 15-15. Not exactly setting the conference on fire. Arkansas then traveled for regionals.

Honestly, I have to agree with this. We always have a mid-season slump then get hot after we rest in Hoover. I actually expect us to finish 2nd or 3rd in the west but finish the season ranked the highest nationally, similar to last year.

I think '04 was the only time we actually won the west and still made it to Omaha.
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5472 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:07 pm to
Why do I see people having MSU like 5th in their predictions? That is a dangerous team.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:11 pm to
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Because Cohen can't coach


How do you explain him being 24-17 in his career vs Mike Bianco... including winning 8 of 10 head to head series?


Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48754 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:12 pm to
GFY engie
Posted by BalladofBradSowell
Member since Nov 2012
812 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:13 pm to
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LSU was first in the SEC in runs scored and RBI
Yeah, which is more than they should have.

Extrapolated Runs = (.50 × 1B) + (.72 × 2B) + (1.04 × 3B) + (1.44 × HR) + (.34 × (HP+BB-IBB)) + (.25 × IBB)+ (.18 × SB) + (-.32 × CS) + (-.090 × (AB - H - K)) + (-.098 x K)+ (-.37 × GIDP) + (.37 x SF) + (.04 × SH)+ (.5 x (1 - league FLD%)(AB-H-SO))

This measures a team's expected production based on core stats. Plug in LSU's numbers and this number is 13% below actual. This means they scored a lot more runs than they should have. The SEC as a whole only saw a .02% difference in 2012. Follow?
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