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re: 5 star recruits of the SEC: Boom or bust?

Posted on 1/10/15 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by RangerRicky
Member since Dec 2014
347 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 6:36 pm to
You are clearly very confused. The standards by which you are judging the players mentioned in this thread contiually change depending on your argument. First it's NFL success, then it's the ability to be turned into a better player with a lower recruiting ranking, then to how the college system they plays in impacts their pro ability....an then you said Amari Cooper has shaky hands.

I'm done.
Posted by BlackCloud
Above It All
Member since Jan 2014
3816 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 6:48 pm to
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I'm done.


Checkmate. Damn kids.

I warned you about the emotional acid rain that you were encountering, courtesy of the BlackCloud, and you fell for it anyway.

Most of the players you listed were system players (as I highlighted in my response)that only did as well as they did because of the system Saban runs. The true test of how well they are developing is being exposed once they get to the NFL.

Deal with it.

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 6:49 pm to
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.an then you said Amari Cooper has shaky hands.



He has yet to prove he can catch the ball over the middle. In the Pros there will be a defender within a yard, we will see if he has that part of his game. In the Pros everyone is fast.
Posted by RangerRicky
Member since Dec 2014
347 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by RangerRicky
Member since Dec 2014
347 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 7:13 pm to
The catch againt UGA two years ago is the only one I remember where he jumped up in traffic to make the catch. Those highlight catches are not the catches that are made in the NFL. Most of Coopers catches are the result of being wide open (even the ones over the middle). If you watch much NFL Games, WRs are not that open most of the time.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:27 pm to
We get it. Amari Cooper will be a bust because he went to Alabama.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:29 pm to
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We get it. Amari Cooper will be a bust because he went to Alabama.


LOL I am just glad he will be playing on Sundays instead of Saturdays!
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:38 pm to
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Most of the players you listed were system players (as I highlighted in my response)that only did as well as they did because of the system Saban runs.


What is this "Saban System" you speak of? The only thing special Saban does is recruit elite players, develop them, and keep them on campus.

Does LSU not have a "system"? Were NFL busts like Glen Dorsey and Tyson Jackson LSU "system" players?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:56 pm to
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We get it. Amari Cooper will be a bust because he went to Alabama.



He could be very good. It is just that we have not seen the ability go over the middle yet. I say the same thing about Coates. It takes more than speed to make it in the NFL, your hands are your most important weapon.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:59 pm to
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He could be very good. It is just that we have not seen the ability go over the middle yet. I say the same thing about Coates. It takes more than speed to make it in the NFL, your hands are your most important weapon.



How could a guy catch 124 passes for 1,727 yards and 16 TD's against SEC defenses and yet have bad hands and be unable to go over the middle? Cooper lined up everywhere on the field, ran every route possible, was double teamed nearly every play, and was still almost unstoppable.
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3763 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 7:42 am to
Good list.
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