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re: 5 star recruits of the SEC: Boom or bust?
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:33 pm to EmperorGout
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:33 pm to EmperorGout
Loston was second team all-SEC his junior and senior years too, but a bust. ooookkkaaay
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Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:34 pm to Monticello
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This is not a Bama v. LSU thread dude. Why are you acting so insecure and uneducated?
I was just having fun exposing how stupid it is to create a thread that only focuses on 5* players who only make up less than 10% of all the players that are evaluated, recruited and developed at LSU.
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Like I said, make us a list of every 3 and 4 star player in the SEC from the 2008-2012 signing class and summarize their career.
No need to do that, just refer to the list I just gave you and call it a day. No other teams list of 3* and 4* "booms" would compare to the players from LSU.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:38 pm to EmperorGout
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Craig Loston was not a bust - solid two year starter in the SEC who is now on the active roster of an NFL team.
The guy went undrafted. I'm not saying he was horrible. He was a solid college player I'm just saying he did not live up to his 5 star rating, which makes him a bust.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:42 pm to BlackCloud
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I was just having fun exposing how stupid it is to create a thread that only focuses on 5* players who only make up less than 10% of all the players that are evaluated, recruited and developed at LSU.
I was simply reminding everyone of the past "star" recruits who came into the SEC so we could discuss how they turned out. I never implied it had any reflection on the quality of the program at LSU. The meat of every signing class for any SEC team is going to come from the 4 star guys.
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No other teams list of 3* and 4* "booms" would compare to the players from LSU.
Cool. Have a cookie.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:43 pm to BlackCloud
Holy shite you are unbearable. Go make your own list.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:43 pm to Monticello
I'm trying to think of having witnessed Ronald Powell making a play at the collegiate level that didn't involve a stretcher or a cart, and I can't.
Clearly he's a semi-boom though.
I doubt non-Gator fans have any idea who he even is. shite, I only know because I follow the Saints
Clearly he's a semi-boom though.
I doubt non-Gator fans have any idea who he even is. shite, I only know because I follow the Saints
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:46 pm to RangerRicky
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Holy shite you are unbearable.
I think you got some emotional acid rain on you, courtesy of the BlackCloud.
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Go make your own list.
I already did.
If I wanted any shite out of you I would E-squeeze your head, a-hole.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:47 pm to EmperorGout
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I'm trying to think of having witnessed Ronald Powell making a play at the collegiate level that didn't involve a stretcher or a cart, and I can't.
Clearly he's a semi-boom though.
He wasn't anything great and certainly was not as good as his high school ranking. But I rated him a "semi-boom" to at least give him credit for getting drafted in the middle rounds. Call Powell as bust if you want. I have no skin in that game.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:48 pm to BlackCloud
The previous point still stands.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:52 pm to BlackCloud
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Go make your own list.
I already did.
If I wanted any shite out of you I would E-squeeze your head, a-hole.
No, you didn't make any list. You cherry picked the best 3 and 4 stars from LSU that you could remember and started bitching that my list (which does not apply to them) did not include them. What about the 50 or so of them that didn't amount to shite?
Go make us a list of every 3 and 4 star from the 2008-2012 signing classes from every SEC team and evaluate their success. Then you will have the list you want.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:56 pm to Monticello
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The guy went undrafted. I'm not saying he was horrible. He was a solid college player I'm just saying he did not live up to his 5 star rating, which makes him a bust.
He was all-SEC twice
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:00 pm to Monticello
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No, you didn't make any list.
I gave you a list of the "booms" that were all 3* and 4* rated coming out of HS.
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You cherry picked the best 3 and 4 stars from LSU that you could remember
And I told you twas to illustrate how dumb it is to only include any list that includes only 5* players which is less than 10% of the total players signed.
I stand by that (how stupid it is/you are).
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started bitching that my list (which does not apply to them) did not include them. What about the 50 or so of them that didn't amount to shite?
I don't bitch son, I make it rain. And by the tone of your comments you are all fricking wet (emotionally).
I have that effect on people.
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Go make us a list of every 3 and 4 star from the 2008-2012 signing classes from every SEC team and evaluate their success. Then you will have the list you want.
I already told your sorry arse that there is no need to do that because the list of LSU players I gave you blows away any list of any other school in the SEC and the entire country.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:07 pm to Monticello
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Alabama:
Julio Jones 08: boom (NFL all-pro and college star). Underachieved in college, best recruit on Bama's team in the Pros.
BJ Scott 08: total bust-did nothing in college
Tyler Love 08: total bust-did nothing in college
DJ Fluker 09: boom (college star and 1st rounder)
Trent Richardson 09: boom (college star and 1st rounder) Played well in College behind a large OL. Too slow to the LOS in the Pros (bust at this level)
Dre Kirkpatrick 09: boom (college star and 1st rounder). 2 INTs in College, about the same in the Pros
Nico Johnson 09: somewhat boom (solid college starter, 4th rnd draft pick). Not a bust, but not a boom.
DeMarcus Milliner 10: boom (college star, 1st rounder). Good in College, bust in the Pros
Cyrus Kouandjio 11: slight boom (college star, 2nd rounder)-although did not live up to hype
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix 11: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Dee Hart 11: bust(transferred, doing well at Colorado St)
TJ Yeldon 12: boom (college star, 2nd or 3rd rounder). See Trent Richardson
Landon Collins 12: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Eddie Williams 12: total bust due to arrest and expulsion
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:15 pm to Irons Puppet
I never implied this list had anything to do with success in the NFL. If you want to nit pick the Alabama list, do that to every team as well. If you really want to pick apart multi millionaires like Julio Jones, Trent Richardson, Dre Kirkpatrick, and Dee Milliner, be my guest. They have achieved every dream expected of a 5 star player. National titles, 1st round picks, mega millions contracts, starting positions in the NFL, etc.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:18 pm to Monticello
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He's a senior correct? I have seen him around the 4th round in most projections. Needs a good combine.
He's a senior but he used a medical redshirt in 2013 so he's staying 5 years.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:21 pm to UMRealist
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He's a senior but he used a medical redshirt in 2013 so he's staying 5 years.
Gotcha. Should have a solid 2015 then.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:21 pm to Monticello
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They have achieved every dream expected of a 5 star player.
I guess I was thinking you were commenting more on 5 stars coming out of high school and how they performed on the collegiate level.
I think a better comparison for college to NFL would be round taken vs success --- although that would be tricky too because many top draft picks are good players who go to truly awful teams.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:24 pm to BlackCloud
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No other teams list of 3* and 4* "booms" would compare to the players f
Sounds like an interesting idea. You should start a thread on it with research to back your claim up.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:28 pm to Monticello
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The guy went undrafted.
Well again, you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the star system means.
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He was a solid college player I'm just saying he did not live up to his 5 star rating
Actually that means he did live up to his rating. 5 star means "can't miss at the college level." Loston was a good college player, not a miss at that level.
The star system has nothing to do with the NFL.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:28 pm to RangerRicky
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Sounds like an interesting idea. You should start a thread on it with research to back your claim up.
Yea I keep asking the guy to do that, but all he wants to do is bitch about my list and talk about LSU.
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