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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
The guy still hasnt provided a link to the cemetery thing. I couldnt see anyone wanting to move bodies. That is the ultimate disrespect. No one would ever do that.
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:31 pm to Doresrules
You still haven't addressed the question though. At what point do you draw the line? How is the current traditions in place now still harmful to Ole Miss?
You can't completely sever ties to the past of your University and develop all new traditions. That's such a silly notion. Bjork is right in creating a new identity, but I sincerely doubt he's talking about removing every last inkling of what has made Ole Miss, Ole Miss. You're once again taking extremes.
You can't completely sever ties to the past of your University and develop all new traditions. That's such a silly notion. Bjork is right in creating a new identity, but I sincerely doubt he's talking about removing every last inkling of what has made Ole Miss, Ole Miss. You're once again taking extremes.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:31 pm to Doresrules
Again I say, it's not evolving it's hiding. I will never agree with that line of thinking as long as I live.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:34 pm to UMRealist
No I wouldnt be cool with it. In large part because it doesnt make sense financially. Its also because red and blue are the official school colors.(Maybe not the red and blue currently used but you get the point)
That isnt a tradition. Thats deciding to change the school colors.It is no where near as simple as getting rid of some old song that isnt a offiial song.
That isnt a tradition. Thats deciding to change the school colors.It is no where near as simple as getting rid of some old song that isnt a offiial song.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:41 pm to Doresrules
You are still talking about the University evolving to get rid of things that could be harmful to the school.
Therefore, if someone came out and demanded the colors be changed because they are offensive because of their ties to the confederacy. It's the same argument being made as with Dixie and Colonel Reb.
Therefore, if someone came out and demanded the colors be changed because they are offensive because of their ties to the confederacy. It's the same argument being made as with Dixie and Colonel Reb.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:46 pm to UMRealist
Saying the song Dixie has racial connotations is debatable. Saying the color red and blue are racist is silly. That argument wouldnt make it anywhere.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:47 pm to Doresrules
You'll notice that they removed our grey uniforms this year... Several journalist last year complained that they were just modern day confederate uniforms..
Not saying the two are related butttt coincidence
Not saying the two are related butttt coincidence
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:50 pm to UMRealist
They replaced them with better looking ones.
Also those greys were only special jerseys anyway. Removing them was no different than removing the powder blue ones.(Or light blue or whatever color you wanna call those old ones)
Also those greys were only special jerseys anyway. Removing them was no different than removing the powder blue ones.(Or light blue or whatever color you wanna call those old ones)
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:58 pm to Doresrules
Regardless the argument is still there. And again you haven't answered the question, where is the medium?
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:58 pm to UMRealist
UM what's your email? I have a question for you.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:00 pm to BluegrassBelle
um do you have a twitter or anything? I'd rather not post my email on here
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:01 pm to UMRealist
I've always wondered why this board doesnt have a private message system.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:02 pm to UMRealist
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:03 pm to UMRealist
I dont think there is a medium. I think every university should always be asking questions on how to better its perception. Always. Whats cool in 2013 may be totally wrong in 2020. You have to act accordingly.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:04 pm to Doresrules
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I dont think there is a medium. I think every university should always be asking questions on how to better its perception. Always. Whats cool in 2013 may be totally wrong in 2020. You have to act accordingly.
Really? That's such a cop out. So you honestly think they should push it as far as they can for a vocal minority?
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:06 pm to Doresrules
we aren't talking about things that are "cool".. We are talking about things that people genuinely love and have associated with Ole Miss their entire lives.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:15 pm to UMRealist
Just because you associate something with the program doesnt make it right. People associated waving confederate flags at games with Ole Miss. We can all look back now and say that probably wasnt the best idea.
That is my point. You have to continue to evolve and question whether this tradition still fits the direction the program is moving.
That is my point. You have to continue to evolve and question whether this tradition still fits the direction the program is moving.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:22 pm to Doresrules
oh my fricking god.
I've said about 300 times in this thread that the confederate flags should have been dropped.
my point in my previous post wasn't that every ole miss tradition is right. You said that we have to evolve to include new "cool" things. To me that implies things such as locking the vault which has been around all of one year.
We are discussing things in this thread that have been around for decades.
I've said about 300 times in this thread that the confederate flags should have been dropped.
my point in my previous post wasn't that every ole miss tradition is right. You said that we have to evolve to include new "cool" things. To me that implies things such as locking the vault which has been around all of one year.
We are discussing things in this thread that have been around for decades.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:26 pm to UMRealist
I find it stupid as hell to still call the HC King Col. Rebel.
actually.....i always found it a bit dumb.
actually.....i always found it a bit dumb.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:28 pm to Doresrules
And just because someone else associates a negative connotation with something that is attached to the program doesn't mean you should have a knee jerk reaction and remove it either.
We're talking about what the ASB and others are attempting to remove right now. Why does Ole Miss need to continue to take additional steps at this juncture when they've clearly established a very open, even controversial pattern for removing themselves from the negative racist stigma?
We're talking about what the ASB and others are attempting to remove right now. Why does Ole Miss need to continue to take additional steps at this juncture when they've clearly established a very open, even controversial pattern for removing themselves from the negative racist stigma?
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