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Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:13 pm to The Spleen
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Or maybe they work the night shift so they're able to be on the streets at 9 with a sign. Or maybe it's their off day. Or maybe the cause is so important to them they used a vacation day.
Maybe!
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:14 pm to biggsc
Please provide an example that you're so upset over and let's debate
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:17 pm to boogiewoogie1978
That logic doesn't hold up. Like, at all. It's just rhetoric spewed from southern republican idiots. Sorry.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:20 pm to MSU5
That's a pretty dumb response. I'm on a board of directors for a local homeless non profit here on Nashville, and you clearly are unaware what causes homelessness. I'm trying to be polite, but you don't understand what you're trying to discuss. It's simply rhetoric and you have 0 knowledge about the subject of homelessness, clearly. it has little to do with the economy in the vast majority of the cases.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:32 pm to cas4t
Mental health and addiction? Though mental health issues are large contributors to addiction.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:34 pm to Duke
the poor with addiction should be processed into food for the poor that are just dumb.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:41 pm to cas4t
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That's a pretty dumb response. I'm on a board of directors for a local homeless non profit here on Nashville, and you clearly are unaware what causes homelessness. I'm trying to be polite, but you don't understand what you're trying to discuss. It's simply rhetoric and you have 0 knowledge about the subject of homelessness, clearly. it has little to do with the economy in the vast majority of the cases.
You're extremely confused. I never mentioned homelessness. Just curious: What are the main causes of homelessness and how do they apply to the topic at hand?
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:45 pm to Duke
Undoubtedly. And mental health is even a broad topic in and of itself when it comes to homelessness. Abuse, neglect, PTSD, lack of access to healthcare, etc all fall under that umbrella, as I'm sure you know.
Usually when we see folks who are homeless due to the economy, it's families. Or single parents.
Usually when we see folks who are homeless due to the economy, it's families. Or single parents.
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:46 pm to MSU5
Not confused at all. You mentioned if folks could work, they wouldn't be out holding a sign. Those 2 things generally have nothing to do with each other, and your stance as well as the other poster who initially mentioned it, is false on many levels.
If you want to discuss the topic at hand, then stay on topic, and try not to steer your way into a subject that you're not qualified to discuss.
I also see you conveniently edited your comment and then attempted to pretend you didn't mention homelessness. I apologize for having common sense, and realizing that folks who hold signs on the side of the highway are generally homeless. You aren't fooling anyone.
If you want to discuss the topic at hand, then stay on topic, and try not to steer your way into a subject that you're not qualified to discuss.
I also see you conveniently edited your comment and then attempted to pretend you didn't mention homelessness. I apologize for having common sense, and realizing that folks who hold signs on the side of the highway are generally homeless. You aren't fooling anyone.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:53 pm to boogiewoogie1978
We've been discussing social policy, not white privelage. The fact that you think the CONCEPT of white privelage is related to ACTUAL social policy is pretty telling. Please name a piece of legislation that has been passed that addresses "white privelage."
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:54 pm to cas4t
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If you want to discuss the topic at hand, then stay on topic, and try not to steer your way into a subject that you're not qualified to discuss.
Haha look at you talking down to me. Are you qualified to discuss it? I have personally turned two homeless people into productive working citizens in the past two years, so I know a little something about it. I never once made a generalization about homeless people, and something triggered you to defend your volunteer position just because "you can." I have been in here arguing principle and policy and advocating for more limited government, more conservative entitlement and welfare systems, and social freedom. I have not gotten off path.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:59 pm to biggsc
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BE A SOCIALIST THEN
Um, no.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:04 pm to MSU5
To answer your question regarding how homelessness and politics are related, I'll try to be brief. But let's just say they are innately related. Do you know what the housing authority is in your state or how they function? I work hand in hand with the Tennessee housing authority regarding family homelessness, and let's just say politics matter. I don't feel like going into the weeds with you on this, because it is a subject on its own and one I frankly don't have the time to go into right now.
I'll leave it at this: many in my state are vehemently against urban development, and they have their voice within the housing authority. Gentrification is creating family homelessness, and is pushing our once spread thin urban areas to centralized hubs, which is essentially segregation for profit, as well as centralizing crime. It's like sweeping the problem under the rug. Or right outside of the rug. Surely you can see where politics come into play here.
That's just one of many examples.
I'll leave it at this: many in my state are vehemently against urban development, and they have their voice within the housing authority. Gentrification is creating family homelessness, and is pushing our once spread thin urban areas to centralized hubs, which is essentially segregation for profit, as well as centralizing crime. It's like sweeping the problem under the rug. Or right outside of the rug. Surely you can see where politics come into play here.
That's just one of many examples.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:04 pm to cas4t
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Abuse, neglect, PTSD, lack of access to healthcare, etc all fall under that umbrella, as I'm sure you know.
Yeah.
I've known some addicts that floated in and out of homelessness, but the underlying issues were bipolar and other anxiety disorders. Some liked the crazy, some just self medicated. They couldnt afford to see a shrink and get them right, so they got left behind. Tragic really.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:12 pm to cas4t
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. I apologize for having common sense, and realizing that folks who hold signs on the side of the highway are generally homeless. You aren't fooling anyone.
Sigh.. wrong type of sign dingbat. That must have been what triggered you earlier. I was talking about picketing signs.. Protesters. Not beggars.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:16 pm to MSU5
My volunteer position. Listen bud, I work hand in hand with the Tennessee Housing Authority. I've sent homeless children to summer camps. I've donated thousands to end family homelessness. I'm an active board member. I am a Nashvillian that cares about the people in my city. I only brought all of this up because a poster earlier made an ignorant comment attempting to correlate homelessness with the economy. You ignorantly agreed with his stance and then edited your comment. I apologize if I offended you, but there is no denying that you were talking out of your arse, hence the edit.
I do applaud you for giving 2 homeless folks a job and I hope they are being paid fairly and not being taken advantage of due to their desperation. Not assuming you are doing that, but it happens often.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:16 pm to cas4t
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I don't care about free college, but I do think healthcare should be offered through the government, while still letting the Aetnas and Humanas of the world administer, as they are the experts.
I actually disagree with this. I think the insurance companies should be able to compete across state lines to make it more competitive, therefore lowering prices.
I am sick of people not being personally responsible for themselves in this country and it being ok. People aren't paying their 2$/month premiums for Obamacare!!! I came from nothing, my parents together made less that 50K a year my entire life, and never received a dime of federal aid. I put myself through school without having student loans, and yes it took a little longer. So now that I worked my arse off and make around 6 figures (somewhere between (90-105K), I have to pay a crap ton of taxes because of a government that can't balance a checkbook and/or people who sit on their tails all day?! I am all for helping the needy, but I want them to at least to have to give some damn effort! Rant over.
I honestly don't how one votes for Hillary though, and yes I am aware who she is running against. Both sides should be ashamed of what their parties placed in front of them. I will vote for Trump though, only because I do not want a president who has funded/aided terrorism directly. And no I do not watch CNN or Fox News, and none of you should either.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:18 pm to MSU5
Well in that case, my apologies. You didn't clarify. Holding signs on the side of the street is not something protestors usually do. That's normally homeless people. I wish you'd have clarified earlier, man. Now I've spent 20 minutes on this shite and need to get back to work.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:20 pm to cas4t
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I am a Nashvillian that cares about the people in my city.
I'm a lifelong and proud Memphian witnessing the root of the problems you are discussing. I am just here to tell you I never mentioned homelessness and was never referring to homeless people. I was talking about protestors and so was the other guy. I think you misread the posts. No one attacked the homeless..
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