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Why should I be a liberal /Democrat?
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:21 am
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:21 am
As someone who sees himself as an Independent because I don't trust either side. I typically vote Republican because I don't think higher taxes, more free stuff, more government is the solution.
So Democrats, I'd like to try to understand your side of the story. Can anyone give me a few reasons I should vote Democrat?
Btw, real talk.
So Democrats, I'd like to try to understand your side of the story. Can anyone give me a few reasons I should vote Democrat?
Btw, real talk.
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:36 am to bayoumuscle21
Need to put this on Political Talk to get "real talk".
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:39 am to bayoumuscle21
You shouldn't be. I think more people should be Indy instead of sheep voting with party lines.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:45 am to bayoumuscle21
You can be anything you want.
You are just 1 person.
It doesn't matter a hill of beans what you believe.
Just remember this: Republicans are not on your side, unless you have well over a million dollars.
Their policies are designed by the richest 1%. Trickle down is a proved failure as an economic policy.
You are just 1 person.
It doesn't matter a hill of beans what you believe.
Just remember this: Republicans are not on your side, unless you have well over a million dollars.
Their policies are designed by the richest 1%. Trickle down is a proved failure as an economic policy.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:46 am to boogiewoogie1978
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You shouldn't be. I think more people should be Indy instead of sheep voting with party lines.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:58 am to bayoumuscle21
I'm not a liberal, but considering you start off with:
But that is preceded by:
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Aside from "more free stuff", you haven't been following the Republican track record have you?
Republicans are not champions of smaller government or lower taxes, despite what people claim on Fox News.
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I don't think higher taxes, more free stuff, more government is the solution.
But that is preceded by:
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I typically vote Republican because
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Aside from "more free stuff", you haven't been following the Republican track record have you?
Republicans are not champions of smaller government or lower taxes, despite what people claim on Fox News.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:13 am to bayoumuscle21
Just vote for whoever you think will do the best job and ignore the R or D next to their name. That's what I do. Here lately, there have been a lot more D's next to the names than R's.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:14 am to bayoumuscle21
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Why should I be a liberal /Democrat?
You shouldn't. End thread.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:42 am to samson'sseed
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Just remember this: Republicans are not on your side, unless you have well over a million dollars.
You stupid shite. What are you talking about?
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:43 am to samson'sseed
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Trickle down is a proved failure as an economic policy.
DaFuk? Then what in your mind is a successful economic policy?
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:51 am to JamalSanders
He's a Bernie Bro. Really all you need to know about his knowledge of economic policies.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:52 am to JamalSanders
A lot of liberal democrats believe in sharing the wealth. Tax the wealthy at a higher percentage than the unfortunate in order to "level the playing field." Essentially, this goes against everything this nation was founded upon. It can also be viewed as "penalizing" success. There should be both winners and losers in this world. You try your absolute hardest and give your best effort to be great, and win. You are rewarded for doing so, regardless of your background or socioeconomic status. You hear "miracle" stories all the time about people making it out of the hood or off the streets. It's not like God "chose" them to make it out and live a great life. They worked their fricking arse off to get out, and that's what this country is all about. Or should be about. Also, there has too be losers in this world. Show me a utopia where everyone is successful. The fear of failure should drive people to be their best. If you don't allow people to fail, you're failing them even worse.
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:57 am to bayoumuscle21
Bro it all depends on your income.
If it's low, you're gonna want free shite, so you vote Dem.
If it's high, you're gonna wanna keep as much of it as possible, so you vote Repub.
Now, it's possible - possible - that your income is low and you have aspirations of it being high one day, in which case you might wanna vote Repub just to give yourself a chance to get there.
It's also possible you're in the opposite boat (high income, want to lower it) but I'm gonna say that's a long shot.
If it's low, you're gonna want free shite, so you vote Dem.
If it's high, you're gonna wanna keep as much of it as possible, so you vote Repub.
Now, it's possible - possible - that your income is low and you have aspirations of it being high one day, in which case you might wanna vote Repub just to give yourself a chance to get there.
It's also possible you're in the opposite boat (high income, want to lower it) but I'm gonna say that's a long shot.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:02 am to JamalSanders
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Then what in your mind is a successful economic policy?
One that focuses on more than just what tax rate we set for each income group.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:05 am to The Spleen
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One that focuses on more than just what tax rate we set for each income group.
Some people just don't understand how important that "tax rate" is for our economy.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:06 am to MSU5
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Tax the wealthy at a higher percentage than the unfortunate in order to "level the playing field." Essentially, this goes against everything this nation was founded upon. It can also be viewed as "penalizing" success.
Actually this is a tricky statement. We rebelled against the crown because of taxation but that included rebelling against "higher classes" of people in England.
This is the direction we are moving towards now with the rich separating themselves from the poor. Rest assured the poor will end up paying a majority of taxes in the end.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:07 am to bayoumuscle21
You should be a liberal if you believe in the liberal perspective. A strong social safety net, the need for regulations (though nothing wrong with frustration at silly regs on the books), and belief there is a need for a strong federal government to ensure the rights of all are taken care of and the power of the exonomy of scale of our shared resources.
If that doesn't sound like you, then why be a Democrat?
If that doesn't sound like you, then why be a Democrat?
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:09 am to bayoumuscle21
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As someone who sees himself as an Independent because I don't trust either side. I typically vote Republican
So you are a Republican then.
We can all try to say we are independent, but in reality you are one or the other. If you vote occasionally for a person on the other side, it does not make you an "I".
We all have to lean one way or another because we only have 2 lousy parties. I wish they could be banned from their national prominence and allow for smaller parties.
The Federal government is too large leading to the strength of national parties.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:12 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Actually this is a tricky statement. We rebelled against the crown because of taxation but that included rebelling against "higher classes" of people in England.
This is the direction we are moving towards now with the rich separating themselves from the poor.
Let's look at a contemporary example, Venezuela. They had staggering divides between the few rich and masses of poor people, and the poor people elected a communist. They put down price controls and when oil crashed the economy got trashed.
The danger of inequality is not that it is a bad thing in and of its self, its that the people end up grasping for increasingly desperate measures to "fix" it.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:18 am to Duke
You have to start by incentivizing people to work. Our entitlement and welfare spending in this country is out of control. You do not deserve money for being a living human. That's not how it's supposed to work. There are plenty of countries around the world with phenomenal labor participation rates and unemployment rates that, as a whole, have a much more functional economy (obviously). It sounds elementary, but it really is that simple. Hard work and greed are both good things. Show me a successful economy out there, or in history, that didn't function off of the premise of greed.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 9:21 am
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