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Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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False. We would have just found something else to kill each other over
Word.
Religion of any sort has fostered much more good than bad. There are some crappy people in any religion, but to think that the bad outweighs the good is foolhearty.
Unless we're just talking about one religion in particular.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:52 pm to 3nOut
quote:Paging V&S.
Religion of any sort has fostered much more good than bad. There are some crappy people in any religion, but to think that the bad outweighs the good is foolhearty.
Unless we're just talking about one religion in particular.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:52 pm to Kodar
Shhhh. You're exposing my hook too much.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:53 pm to CatFan81
False. Even if
the technological advancements from those wars have made life a hell of a lot easier and allow more people to live today than at any point possible in the past. Or if you're in favor of population control, wars killed off a lot of people so that the resources didn't get used before we were here.
People as a whole are greedy, self-serving bastards. Individually, we try to rise above that, but the fact is wars and crap would happen regardless. If we're just talking about any religion in general, it gives people the structure they desire to try to not be as shitty as they may otherwise be.
Like Voltaire said, "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him."
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Religion has caused more wars and death than anything else in the history of mankind.
the technological advancements from those wars have made life a hell of a lot easier and allow more people to live today than at any point possible in the past. Or if you're in favor of population control, wars killed off a lot of people so that the resources didn't get used before we were here.
People as a whole are greedy, self-serving bastards. Individually, we try to rise above that, but the fact is wars and crap would happen regardless. If we're just talking about any religion in general, it gives people the structure they desire to try to not be as shitty as they may otherwise be.
Like Voltaire said, "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him."
Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:54 pm to 3nOut
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Unless we're just talking about one religion in particular.
Scientology?
Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:54 pm to Patton
False: Human nature is sinful. Wars would be fought regardless. Even some of the wars that were supposedly over religion had some ulterior motive. I can't think of a single war that was simply over religion.
Additionally, government is responsible for far more death and destruction. That could be further projected onto atheism. Stalin ring a bell?
Additionally, government is responsible for far more death and destruction. That could be further projected onto atheism. Stalin ring a bell?
Posted on 2/19/15 at 6:03 pm to CatFan81
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Religion has caused more wars and death than anything else in the history of mankind.
Yeah, that's not even close to true...
Posted on 2/19/15 at 6:05 pm to Evolved Simian
It's catfan having to defend a religion outside of Islam.
Just say "shut up catfan" and move on.
Just say "shut up catfan" and move on.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 6:11 pm to CatFan81
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True. Religion has caused more wars and death than anything else in the history of mankind.
This is the dumbest thing you've posted since you posted
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Kentucky football will be just fine
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 6:24 pm to Patton
false
Posted on 2/19/15 at 6:34 pm to the808bass
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I know it's a hypothetical, but I dislike the premise. Why has humanity been religious across culture and time?
Approximately 60,000 years ago, fully modern humans, Homo sapiens sapiens, appeared. The hallmark of this modernism was creativity. Symbolism was the product of this new power of creativity.
Coincidental with the origin of modern humans were proto-religious practices. Dead members of primitive tribes were buried along with items signifying their respect by survivors. Paintings in caves represented reverence for the prey that sustained the groups.
No doubt, IMO, this new love for and use of symbolism extended to the command structure within the tribes. Where raw power was necessary to maintain leadership prior to this evolutionary bellwether of symbolism, now a leader could establish a mystical entity that was all-powerful and demanded obedience to rules that were passed down only through the tribal leader(s). The original shamans were born.
So, true, we'd be a far less deceitful species without shamans.
This post was edited on 2/20/15 at 5:20 am
Posted on 2/19/15 at 6:40 pm to Patton
Easily true. Religion has set us back generations.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 6:49 pm to Patton
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Humanity would have been better off today if religion had never been created.
False.
The world is better off with people who have their own set of beliefs they live by, some good some may not be.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:26 pm to Patton
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Humanity would have been better off today if religion had never been created.
True or False?
False. Very False.
SADLY, very False.
This would make for a great psychological profile question. Not because it measures someone's religiosity but because it exposes the limits of a person's perspective. His/her historical perspective. His/her perspective of self relative The Universe.
To "thinking" people who nonetheless rarely think about the fact that they are temporary place-markers on a planet that has supported man for ages it should definitely seem that the answer is "True". If the world had begun in The Middle Ages then: Yeah. We'd be better off without it. But the world for man began with man scratching his unwiped furry anus on a tree trunk. Religion helped us to rise out from the mud and build houses, schools, and windmills. Without it we might all yet be crawling around braining one another with sticks and dying of old age at 30.
Too many modern Americans I fear have lost their historical perspective. They spend too many hours in cars during rush hour. They don't realize that a mere 100 years ago most of us were driving around on animals. 200 years ago there was no Environmentalism because Nature was still kicking our arse! Keeping your yard mowed was a literal struggle and you were always losing. 2000 years ago Europeans were living like fricking monkeys. The Jesus Myth [and all the crap that came with it] facilitated social evolution, like it or not.
The Universe is more complicated than any child would have it to be. Religion had its place. It was needed. It served Man. It was good. We've reached the point now whereby it is arcane. Doubtful we COULD have reached this point save via it.
The answer is "False". A reluctant "False".
The Labor Unions were great in their day, also. They helped engender a world wherein they had to eat themselves.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:31 pm to Patton
False. Genghis Kahn didn't do anything in the name of religion and he killed up to 70,000,000 people.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:33 pm to Kentucker
Trite beyond imagination.
And wrong.
And wrong.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:36 pm to Patton
False
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:39 pm to the808bass
The number of words in your response implies succinctness. However, the content of the response implies ignorance.
ETA: Oh, and welcome back. Missed you.
ETA: Oh, and welcome back. Missed you.
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:40 pm to bawbarn
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False. Genghis Kahn didn't do anything in the name of religion and he killed up to 70,000,000 people.
1) You're saying that because "things" besides religions do bad things then relgions are not a bad things? So I can tell my 3 year-old: "Hippoptami kill people, too, and so your drinking that bleach wouldn't be ill advised."
2) You imply that killing people is a bad thing. From whence this notion that homicide is bad?
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