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Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:15 am to TT9
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And a large scale attack will never happen under a democrat.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:43 am to TT9
poliboard
Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:58 am to TT9
The poliboard is downstairs.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:21 am to Cobrasize
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The establishment Republicans are going to cause Clinton to win and ruin their own party.
Well the "establishment" has cultivated the culture that has led to Cruz and Trump for a couple of decades now, so they only have themselves to blame.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:54 am to TT9
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And a large scale attack will never happen under a democrat.
Bookmarked as frick
Posted on 3/31/16 at 10:22 am to bigDgator
quote:Like scooter libby!?
Maybe someone in his family needs a pardon.
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 10:23 am
Posted on 3/31/16 at 10:26 am to TT9
quote:You say shite like that you make dems seem dumb. Although still only about 5% as dumb as a conservative.
And a large scale attack will never happen under a democrat.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 10:31 am to TT9
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And a large scale attack will never happen under a democrat.
bullshite. You're an idiot for thinking this.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 1:26 pm to TT9
So your excited to have a communist in Hillary win President?
Posted on 3/31/16 at 1:37 pm to TT9
Trump proved by his statements that he is simply playing a role. He is simply playing a character of what New York liberals believe conservatives to be.
He knows that most conservatives are pro-life, so he acts as if he's pro life too (even though he was for partial birth abortion not too long ago). He therefore assumes that then surely most conservatives want to prosecute or punish women for having an abortion... which is of course not the case.
Then when conservative, pro-life groups criticize Trump for his statements, he backtracks and starts spinning.
The guy is a fraud. He's a con-man. And he's demonstrating just how stupid this country is.
He knows that most conservatives are pro-life, so he acts as if he's pro life too (even though he was for partial birth abortion not too long ago). He therefore assumes that then surely most conservatives want to prosecute or punish women for having an abortion... which is of course not the case.
Then when conservative, pro-life groups criticize Trump for his statements, he backtracks and starts spinning.
The guy is a fraud. He's a con-man. And he's demonstrating just how stupid this country is.
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 3/31/16 at 1:47 pm to Cobrasize
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The establishment Republicans are going to cause Clinton to win and ruin their own party.
I am in no way "Establishment", but this is just absolute crap.
No one in the Establishment is responsible for Trump having a history of making derogatory statements about women. No one in the establishment convinced Trump to advocate punishing women for having an abortion.
The reason the guy continues to step in it is because he's ACTING. He doesn't believe what he says. He's pretending to be something he's not, and so he therefore slips up and says stupid shite that no side actually believes or wants.
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If Trump wasn't in the race, they would have ganged up against Cruz.
Maybe so. But would it have any effect? 90% of Republican voters want nothing to do with the establishment. Attacks from the establishment are proving to HELP each candidate, not hurt them.
Attacks from the establishment would not hurt Cruz, just as they are not hurting Trump. Trump is hurting Trump.... and the party, and the conservative movement, and the nation.
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The establishment is so greedy, corrupt, and out of touch that they are going to destroy the Republican Party.
The current atmosphere that has led to the rise of Trump was created by both Obama and the Republican establishment. That is true. But the destruction of the party will end up being the blind allegiance to a complete psychopath that far too many Republicans have subscribed towards.
The party could have stuck it to the establishment by rallying behind Ted Cruz. And at this point, no intelligent person could ever truly believe that Trump would be more electable than Cruz.
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 3/31/16 at 1:51 pm to bama will rise again
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Kinda crazy noone holds these bitches accountable when they get elected.. Should force impeachment more often, would change the landscape imo
Impeachment? Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors. I am no fan of Obama, but until someone can prove to be he's committed a "high crime or misdemeanor" I think impeachment is a bit crazy.
I think a better way would be to pass a law implementing term limits for politicians.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 1:54 pm to The Spleen
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Well the "establishment" has cultivated the culture that has led to Cruz and Trump for a couple of decades now, so they only have themselves to blame.
So if you are anti-establishment, but also anti-Cruz and anti-Trump, who do you suggest?
I just don't understand how anyone could be a Republican, but also be both anti-Cruz AND anti-establishment.
Can someone tell me one major policy position of Ted Cruz that they find appalling? I agree he's not naturally likable, but I don't see how anyone could be a Republican, hate the establishment, but also not be satisfied with a President Cruz.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:00 pm to TT9
Kasich vs. Hillary or Sanders for President.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:19 pm to BHMKyle
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So if you are anti-establishment, but also anti-Cruz and anti-Trump, who do you suggest?
No clue. That's not my decision to make. I think you just vote on your values and who you think will be the best President, and ignore all these silly labels put on candidates.
My point is, in regards to Cruz, the "establishment" has long embraced and tolerated talk that they knew was untenable. Abolishing the IRS, abolishing the Dept of Education, abolishing the EPA. Just a few examples of things Cruz has endorsed in his candidacy that have no shot of coming to fruition, and things that have been talked about in Republican circles for years. Rather than quash that talk knowing it couldn't be accomplished, they let it fester and build, and here we are today with 2 candidates leading the primaries the "establishment" is scared to death of.
I mean, look at Kasich. He has flat out said a lot of these ideas are impossible to accomplish and he's labeled a Democrat by some Republicans because of it.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:25 pm to The Spleen
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My point is, in regards to Cruz, the "establishment" has long embraced and tolerated talk that they knew was untenable. Abolishing the IRS, abolishing the Dept of Education, abolishing the EPA. Just a few examples of things Cruz has endorsed in his candidacy that have no shot of coming to fruition, and things that have been talked about in Republican circles for years. Rather than quash that talk knowing it couldn't be accomplished, they let it fester and build, and here we are today with 2 candidates leading the primaries the "establishment" is scared to death of.
Exactly. Trump is the monster they created.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:51 pm to The Spleen
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Abolishing the IRS
How is a Republican's belief and plan to abolish the IRS any more "untenable" than a Democrat's plan to dissolve the big banks, punish Wall Street, etc.?
There are a lot of people in this country who support the idea of a "Fair Tax" or "Flat Tax" that would render the IRS nearly useless. All taxes would be paid by consumers at the time of a purchase.
This is no more "untenable" than the progressives in the 1910s who advocated for the initiation of an income tax when at the time there was no such thing.
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abolishing the Dept of Education
Do you stand by the record of the Department of Education? If a corporation had the success record of the Department of Education, it would have gone out of business decades ago. Our inner-city schools are abysmal.
How is it that the Federal Government is not held accountable for any of its failures? Just as the EPA and anyone else responsible for those kids who got lead poisoning in Flint, how about holding those responsible for our children not getting a proper education?
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abolishing the EPA
Again, 90% of the EPA could be slashed and it would do nothing but good. The only duty of the EPA that the vast majority of both conservatives and liberals support is maintaining safe food and clean water..... yet kids in Flint have now been subjected to lead poisoning partly because of the EPA's failures.
They have far too many people who are too worried about blocking development because of some "rare" breed of snail that they can't focus on the business that the department was created to do in the first place.
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I mean, look at Kasich. He has flat out said a lot of these ideas are impossible to accomplish and he's labeled a Democrat by some Republicans because of it.
Kasich is labelled as a Democrat because he campaigns as one. That's his own fault. When you openly state you'd be open to choosing a Democrat to be your running mate on a Republican ticket, you have no room to complain of charges that you are acting like a Democrat.
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 3/31/16 at 3:08 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 3/31/16 at 3:21 pm to BHMKyle
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How is a Republican's belief and plan to abolish the IRS any more "untenable" than a Democrat's plan to dissolve the big banks, punish Wall Street, etc.?
Because there will always be a need for a federal governmental agency that regulates tax law and collects tax revenue. Even with a Fair Tax(that's never happening) there will be a need for employees to process receipt of taxes and regulate that everyone is paying their taxes. So good for you at abolishing the IRS, just to replace it with some other agency with a different name. Lot of good you did there.
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Our inner-city schools are abysmal.
99% of public education is administered at the state and local levels, so the US Dept of Education has nothing to do with school performance.
Of the 3 departments I mentioned though, it is the easiest one to abolish. Though Reagan was unsuccessful when he tried in 82.
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Again, 90% of the EPA could be slashed and it would do nothing but good.
His message is abolishing it altogether, not slashing it 90%. It would be an unmitigated disaster to abolish the EPA. He knows that(or at least I hope he does), but the rubes in the general public don't. Still, if he were able to abolish it, it would have to be replaced with something, so just like the IRS we'd be back to square one.
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