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re: Thank you Donald Trump

Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:54 pm to
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Even with a Fair Tax(that's never happening) there will be a need for employees to process receipt of taxes and regulate that everyone is paying their taxes. So good for you at abolishing the IRS, just to replace it with some other agency with a different name. Lot of good you did there.


With a simple, national consumption tax replacing the entire convoluted tax code, you would save businesses and individuals an estimated $400 million annually. You could also eliminate 95% of the current IRS employees... again, saving the nation lots of money.

So yes, A LOT of good you'd do there.

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His message is abolishing it altogether, not slashing it 90%.


Then abolish the EPA and replace it with a "Clean food & water" department that has most of their current, unregulated power curtailed.

It's really pretty simple. And its a lot easier to use the campaign slogan, "Abolish the EPA" than it is to get into the nitty gritty details of cutting this and that keeping x percent, etc. from the campaign stump.

I can assure you Ted Cruz does not want nor intend for our nation's water supply to not be regulated for cleanliness. To pretend that that is what he is campaigning for is ludicrous.

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Still, if he were able to abolish it, it would have to be replaced with something, so just like the IRS we'd be back to square one.


No. Getting rid of 90% of an agency and taking away 90% of their duties (which are unnecessary and completely wasteful) is not getting back to "square one."

American liberals love to point to our bloated defense budget and compare it to every other country's much smaller spending on defense. But they never think nor would they even listen to the facts concerning how much we spend (i.e. waste) compared to the rest of the world when it comes to education, the environment, and tax compliance.

Our nation's entire federal budget is completely bloated with all types of waste.... in every single department. We are racking up all kinds of deficits, and until our country can learn to balance its budget, calls to abolish ANY portion of the government is certainly not "untenable," they are completely warranted.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70900 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:01 pm to
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It's march




The man said, and then doubled down, that women should be punished for getting abortions. If you think he can bounce back from something like that then I have some investment opportunities I'd like to discuss with you.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:20 pm to
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And its a lot easier to use the campaign slogan, "Abolish the EPA" than it is to get into the nitty gritty details of cutting this and that keeping x percent, etc. from the campaign stump.



Of course it is, and that's my point. It dumbs down the message for the rubes that think abolishing the EPA is actually his goal. Of course he doesn't want to abolish the EPA, but saying it creates an expectation for that to happen and when it doesn't, it creates more anti-"establishment" types like Cruz and Trump.


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American liberals love to point to our bloated defense budget and compare it to every other country's much smaller spending on defense. But they never think nor would they even listen to the facts concerning how much we spend (i.e. waste) compared to the rest of the world when it comes to education, the environment, and tax compliance.



I've never seen a single liberal advocate for abolishing the military. Cruz has advocated for abolishing all 3 of these agencies. He may intend to just trim the fat from them and improve their efficiency, which anyone with a brain would admit is needed, but his message is abolishing them altogether. That is the part that is untenable, though I'll concede abolishing the Dept of Education isn't as untenable as the other 2.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6698 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:32 pm to
Canals may be a loose cannon, but he is not a thief and murderer. What has she accomplished??

Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:10 pm to
X serious

I not a trump fan


But why shouldn't a woman who seeks out an illegal abortion not be punished?

If I take something from someone and that thing is stolen it doesn't matter if I stOle it or not that's thief by receivING


I don't get it get a fricking legal one lol. If u do something illegal you shoukd be punished
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 8:12 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119110 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:14 pm to
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fraud like him.


Compared to Hillary?
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:52 pm to
Wtf is the establishment ?


All I know

1. Even though obe csnidate us a lifelong polition and currently a governor, one is in the us senate and one has millions of dollars handed to him and half his work force redides outside the us, all of them are outsiders goung against the establishment
2, everyone hates it
3, getting ride of the establishment will make my Johnson 3 inches bigger cure cancer allow Ole miss to win the sec west and fix every other problem


I'll give trump this, and why ill probably end up voting for him. He's a pragmatist and astutely read the mood of the country

1 mostof the country is fairly liberal on social issues, even if they dibt realuze it, but conservative on economic issues


2. He wasn't beating Hillary in a primary

3,no one cares about your policies they want to be told everything will be okay they don't care how


Trump realised this and pretty much ran in the gop as a liberal in the gop
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:30 am to
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Of course he doesn't want to abolish the EPA, but saying it creates an expectation for that to happen and when it doesn't, it creates more anti-"establishment" types like Cruz and Trump.


Well unfortunately we live in a sound bite world. Because very few children are properly educated (thanks to our education system), the masses who vote in elections simply do not understand policy discussions. The ONLY way to get elected is to come up with short, simple campaign promises that voters can understand.

That is why folks like Bobby Jindal don't stand a chance to ever be president.

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Cruz has advocated for abolishing all 3 of these agencies. He may intend to just trim the fat from them and improve their efficiency, which anyone with a brain would admit is needed, but his message is abolishing them altogether. That is the part that is untenable, though I'll concede abolishing the Dept of Education isn't as untenable as the other 2.


Again, "Abolishing the IRS" or "EPA" or "Department of Education" is far easier for the rank and file voters to understand. And when the intentions are to trim 90% or so out of each department, then I see no problem stating such.

The fact of the matter is, the EPA could be abolished and replaced with a "Clean water & food supply" agency, etc.

Cruz' claims are not at all untenable. Saying we'll "Build a wall" and "have Mexico pay for it" is untenable. Just as it is to say we'll provide health insurance to everyone who lacks coverage and lower every family's premiums by $2500/year, all while keeping your doctor and keeping your current plan if you like it, etc.

THAT was untenable.... it was an outright LIE that the media never seems to remember as they fact check Republicans on every minute detail.
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:59 am to
In a drug bust, who gets arrested? Both
In a prostitution sting, who gets arrested? Both
Both the seller and purchaser of stolen goods get hit.

I don't understand the logic here either
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10567 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 12:07 pm to
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You secured the white house for the democrats yet again.


You say that like it's a good thing. Both parties suck so fricking bad.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 12:18 pm to
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Obama never led is into a 3 trillion war over 100% bull shite.

And a large scale attack will never happen under a democrat.



Yet Clinton along with many other Democrats voted for the war against Iraq. And Obama still has troops in Afghanistan (the longest war in U.S. history and counting) and Iraq.
Posted by AUnite
The Tragic City
Member since Nov 2010
14828 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 12:24 pm to
All of them suck arse. We're screwed no matter what.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:20 pm to
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I completely agree. They make tons of promises, then take office and just say screw the people. I'm so tired of only having garbage to vote for. You can't trust any of them.


2,000% this. Who ever the dems and the reps want to represent them as a candidate, is the ones who we shouldn't vote for. Both parties are just as bad and most presidents are just puppets anyway.

Also who comes up with the terms dems, rep, liberals? The media? I wouldn't trust the media either. I don't want to get into another debate, but how isn't most people a liberal? Why wouldn't anyone want to have freedom to choose what they can do, as long as they aren't infringing another person's rights? Under this notion, affirmative action would be crap, eminent domain, illegal seizures of property by cops, would be crap as well. Dindu's leaching off the gov't would be infringing on my personal rights by making me support their sorry asses.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14104 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:29 pm to
It is very very close to impossible for Trump to make it to the white house at this point. Even if he gets the delegate points, which he probably won't, he'll never beat a democrat. He couldn't beat Sanders or Hillary, because the media wouldn't allow it.

I think Kasich will be the man selected to emerge from the RNC to take on the Democratic candidate.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:50 pm to
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Even if he gets the delegate points, which he probably won't,



Wtf
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14104 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:02 pm to
Do you understand how it works?
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:03 pm to
He has to win like one more state to win. Ain't no weasel looking motherfricking Canadian coming in to save the day.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14104 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:11 pm to
Wrong, but I agree about Cruz, the establishment favors Kasich.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:13 pm to
Wrong about?
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14104 posts
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:45 pm to
Trump will have to win several more states to make it to 1,237. Wisconsin is one of only 2 or 3 winner-take-all states left. Everyone else allocates their delegates using various other methods. Trump needed Wisconsin.
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