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Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:40 pm to the808bass
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:40 pm to the808bass
Obviously you're assuming (correctly) that I don't know.
What's the point?
What's the point?
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:12 pm to hipgnosis
Vaccines are not money makers (comparatively). Make another anti depressant or a new formulation of a sleep medicine. That's where the coin is. There's not the financial incentive for them to invent this whole alternative reality for people.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:36 pm to hipgnosis
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Better sanitation, plumbing, water supplies, living conditions ect ousted virus's like measles and polio.
Public sanitation efforts effectively limit the spread of pathogens which spread via the fecal-oral route (such as polio). However, they are relatively ineffective at preventing the spread of respiratory pathogens. Unless you are talking about fullblown medical contact and respiratory precautions and such, this is incorrect regarding measles. The basic, every day public sanitation measures we all enjoy in 2015 dont do much to stop the spread of diseases like the measles.
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The medical complex feeds the research for pro vaccination. How people can't take this into account and at least go, hmm, well there is indeed a financial agenda and here is the evidence of connections between the people making money off vaccinations and the people saying they're good.
Less than 3% of the pharm industry's annual profits come from vaccines. The overwhelming majority of the money is made from drugs which treat chronic diseases just as high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and heart disease. Lipitor alone accounts for more profits each year than every single vaccine COMBINED.
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Until a guy in a tie comes on a certified, official, sanctioned, mainstream news outlet and says 'everyone, vaccines are officially bad' (which of course will never happen), the majority will keep buying into the propaganda.
It wont happens because its blatantly false.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:03 pm to the808bass
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There's not the financial incentive
It's a 24 billion dollar industry, and growing. And that's in direct terms. It has ripples.
*The intention for growth is key, which is a huge part of the push to get everyone onboard.
Want to do this battle? Because you'll lose.
Ask for it, and you'll get it. I've been wanting to refine this debate for myself.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
But there's a lot of formaldehyde in vaccines. And mercury. And possibly Uranus
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:10 pm to Roger Klarvin
Didn't read, Gaylord.
You're heavily invested in this medical paradigm, it would be impossible for you to accept anything other than what's been put down your throat.
You're heavily invested in this medical paradigm, it would be impossible for you to accept anything other than what's been put down your throat.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:14 pm to hipgnosis
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It's a 24 billion dollar industry, and growing. And that's in direct terms. It has ripples.
Which is roughly 2.4% of a trillion dollar pharm idustry. It's a drop in he bucket.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:20 pm to hipgnosis
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Didn't read, Gaylord.
You're heavily invested in this medical paradigm, it would be impossible for you to accept anything other than what's been put down your throat.
I have never made a single cent off of vaccines and I sincerely doubt I ever will. If everyone in American stopped vaccinating tomorrow, it would actually INCREASE my future revenue stream. Moreover, only a handful of pharm companies on the planet would even blink. The majority in the medical industry would benefit financially from a decrease in vaccines, though society as a whole would suffer.
You simply have no idea what you're talking about regarding this topic.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:23 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Which is roughly 2.4% of a trillion dollar pharm idustry. It's a drop in he bucket.
It's still a 24 billion dollar industry. To hell with drops in buckets.
And, not surprisingly, you're missing a major factor -- the feverish intention to grow. Which is a major component to the agenda of getting everyone onboard -- creating an environment where there are mandates all over the place for vaccination.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I have never made a single cent off of vaccines and I sincerely doubt I ever will.
Why would I assume you make money from vaccines? Weird.
You're entrenched in the mainstream medical paradigm, as a nurse, or whatever it is you do. Doesn't matter. You're going to abide by that paradigm, as most do when they've invested so much into something.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:29 pm to hipgnosis
What incentive do I have to support vaccines apart from the desire to limit disease?
I'm interested in hearing you actually explain this, not just flippantly posting generic conspiracy critiques any 15 year old on reddit could parrot.
I'm interested in hearing you actually explain this, not just flippantly posting generic conspiracy critiques any 15 year old on reddit could parrot.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:37 pm to Roger Klarvin
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What incentive do I have to support vaccines apart from the desire to limit disease?
Exhale. You've invested into the mainstream medical paradigm, both financially, and with your time and intellect. If this paradigm is full of shite on vaccines, what else is it full of shite on. It would destroy the reality you've heavily invested in, that's the incentive to hold onto it.
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I'm interested in hearing you actually explain this, not just flippantly posting generic conspiracy critiques any 15 year old on reddit could parrot.
What have I said that's a conspiracy?
It's history that a variety of progressive improvements to society wiped out things that vaccines take credit for.
Also, I'm on the phone, it's late, I'm not intending to invest hours into a debate.
Maybe I'll drop magma bombs on your nurse outfit in the next few days with a vaccine thread.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:38 pm to hipgnosis
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It's still a 24 billion dollar industry. To hell with drops in buckets.
$100 vs $97.60 for perspective
If vaccine production and sales stopped entirely, big pharm wouldnt miss a beat. Nobody will lose much sleep over that two dollars and fourty cents.
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And, not surprisingly, you're missing a major factor -- the feverish intention to grow. Which is a major component to the agenda of getting everyone onboard -- creating an environment where there are mandates all over the place for vaccination.
Or the simpler explanation, we like the version of America without measles, pertussis and polio better.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:38 pm to hipgnosis
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And, not surprisingly, you're missing a major factor -- the feverish intention to grow.
Where are they growing? Polio vaccines? Nope. How about measles? Nope.
The "feverish intention to grow" is aimed at vaccines for dengue fever, vaccines for MRSA. Those are some novel compounds that could do the world a helluva a lot more good than your conspiracy theories.
Are you not going to vaccinate your kids or will the lady friend control that area?
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:42 pm to hipgnosis
A nurse might just have a limited enough knowledge base to call into question the validity of vaccines based on such hollow posts as yours.
Thankfully, I dont suffer from such a shortcoming. See the thing about medical school is they dont give out degrees based on one's ability to read misinformation on "news" sites written by people with associates degrees.
Thankfully, I dont suffer from such a shortcoming. See the thing about medical school is they dont give out degrees based on one's ability to read misinformation on "news" sites written by people with associates degrees.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:43 pm to Roger Klarvin
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$100 vs $97.60 for perspective
24 billion dollars a year. That's all the perspective needed. It's significant regardless of the ratios.
Vaccines are a growing player for the coming years. People with vision know this.
You keep ignoring the potential for massive growth once there are mandates for vaccines around every corner. Wonder why that is.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:44 pm to Roger Klarvin
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A nurse might just have a limited enough knowledge base to call into question the validity of vaccines based on such hollow posts as yours.
Thankfully, I dont suffer from such a shortcoming. See the thing about medical school is they dont give out degrees based on one's ability to read misinformation on "news" sites written by people with associates degrees
Be ready for magmaccine in coming days.
You will cry.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:46 pm to the808bass
People like him do what they do only as far as it is comfortably convenient for. When the convenience ends and medical necessity takes over, most throw themselves at the feet of the medical establishment they claimed to distrust with such fervor.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:49 pm to hipgnosis
Are they going to mandate dengue fever vaccines?
MRSA vaccines?
No idea?
It's good shite. Keep it coming.
MRSA vaccines?
No idea?
It's good shite. Keep it coming.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:49 pm to Roger Klarvin
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When the convenience ends and medical necessity takes over, most throw themselves at the feet of the medical establishment they claimed to distrust with such fervor.
It would be weird if his lady friend worked in the health industry.
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