re: People who don't vaccinate their children are...

Do you really believe anything I am saying in this thread?




Hint I'm bored and y'all are easy.

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Do you really believe anything I am saying in this thread?

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Wise move. When you've been shown to be a modern day Nazi, pretend you were just spewing nonsense.

I mean, since you WERE spewing nonsense and all.

Good move.

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GoldenDawg

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Just when I was starting to forget what a fricking moron you are, I find this shite show.

My newborn can't get vaccinated for several months. In the meantime, he's relatively safe here in America because of herd immunity.


You are no better than a god damn Mexican crossing the border with Tuberculosis. You should be thrown into a furnace.

Happy Easter.

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Wise move. When you've been shown to be a modern day Nazi, pretend you were just spewing nonsense.

I mean, since you WERE spewing nonsense and all.

Good move.

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Damn dude you don't give up, I'm truly sorry that you believed me when I said we should put people who don't get vaccinated on an island like they did the lepers, I mean really c'mon man take off your everybody is out to get me and force me to take injections I don't want glasses off and just realize how incredulous all that shite really sounds. Oh and BTW that modern day Nazi shite you compared me to is so far from who I am that I'm gonna let it slide only because you obviously haven't discovered that I am a know sarcastic smart arse who is entertained by easy targets like you

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And then you deny it when you are showed exactly what you are. Just slow your roll, please. Any time you are for forcing families to inject their kids or they should be ostracized from society please understand you are firmly in the wrong.

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So there should be no recourse for not vaccinating children of deadly diseases and therefor making all children susceptible to them? You claim I am "firmly in the wrong" but you don't explain why.

Should be neutered to prevent diluting the human gene pool further. And DFCS should take their kids. Now got dammit.

Lots of ignorance on this thread.

I used to be just like many of you and thought that people were crazy for not getting every possible immunization for their kids. I mean it is the safe and responsible thing, right?

Then when my youngest son turned 5 he developed Type 1 Diabetes. For those of you who don't know Type 1 Diabetes is an autoimmune disease that is caused by a virus that enters your body and in the process of fighting the virus your body turns on itself and attacks the insulin producing part of your pancreas. He is 100% insulin dependent as his body makes no insulin.

The odd thing was that my wife and I both had no history of diabetes in our family. We went and did a blood test and got genetically checked for the disease and both of us were negative to the "markers" that are found to cause it. Then we realized that we had, like good parents are supposed to do, gotten every possible immunization of our child to keep him "healthy". We ignored little things like fevers and minor sicknesses our children often had after immunizations as "normal". Eventually we realized that our son had been given a triple immunization just a few months before his diagnosis, immunizations that were essentially just viruses planted in our son's system.

There is no way to prove if that is what caused him to develop Type 1 or not but there is certainly enough evidence to make me wonder. The more I read about how vaccines are developed and approved certainly didn't make me feel any better about it. They keep coming up with more and more vaccines to inject healthy children with for obscure diseases. Is it really crazy to think that at some point it may not be the healthiest thing, especially some of the newer vaccines?

I also have a very good friend that is an Air Force pilot. He was given every immunization under the sun because he traveled to every craphole you can imagine. He started feeling listless and sick and after extensive testing they found it to be the cocktail of immunizations he had been given over the years as the culprit. He has to deal with some of the health problems for the rest of his life, though he will likely get disability pay after he retires.

All I am saying is that you should be careful and research every vaccination you have, often times they are more experiment than real science. They are well intended but in the end you are injecting millions of people with various viruses and chemicals in hopes that you will prevent illness. Realize as well though that some who get the vaccine never needed it but will be harmed by it. They even have a government agency that specifically deals with vaccine compensation to avoid the traditional lawsuits you have to engage to sue over injury from vaccines. In our case Type 1 Diabetes is still under investigation as to whether it can be caused by vaccines or not, but with more Type 1 diagnoses every year and at an increasing level it seems to be more than a coincidence. The same issue can be said for all autoimmune diseases from Celiac to Lupus that are on the rise.

Maybe it is all coincidence but to say a parent that doesn't want to inject their child with every vaccine they dream up is committing "child abuse" is incredibly naive.

Stupid.

Just getting back to this thread. MMR is just one vaccine, now pediatricians are pushing parents to give their kids dozens of them, typically at the same time and in various combination cocktails. Then you have annual flu vaccines. It's just a lot to introduce into the system of a healthy child and not all vaccines are as thoroughly tested as others. Every vaccine has a certain percentage of patients that will have adverse reactions as well, some more serious than others. The most common symptom is a fever, especially when multiple vaccines are given at the same time.

My main point is that it is a lot more complicated than just saying any parent that doesn't vaccinate their child with every vaccine the Dr has available isn't crazy. Are the increased number of vaccinations related to the increases in autoimmune diseases and other ailments such as autism? We just don't know for sure, there is no scientific proof as of yet.

What is certain is that some things we do medically today are bound to be considered crazy decades from now just as they were in the past. For instance when my Mom was pregnant the first time she had a miscarriage and then for her second pregnancy they gave her a cocktail of medications that they would never consider today. My sister was born premature and has health issues to this day. When both of us were kids they actually encouraged Moms to feed their kids formula over breast milk. My Mom is an RN btw.

People just need to be informed and look at all the information out there and make their own decisions. Maybe my son would have developed Type 1 had he never gotten a vaccination, we will never know. Interestingly enough now they are showing some signs of progress in potentially reversing Type 1 using the tuberculosis vaccine (which kids are no longer vaccinated with typically in the US). There is real hope for reversal of Type 1 with this and other methods and there has been at least some success in reversing Type 1 in a few people. Medical science is ever evolving.