Started By
Message
re: Obama needs to step down
Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:35 pm to PrivatePublic
Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:35 pm to PrivatePublic
quote:
Our own leadership won't even denounce it.
He was raised in a muslim country and taught islam from a young age, and is at the very least a sympathizer. So no, he wont be denouncing it or calling on all muslims to denounce it.
0
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:43 pm to Old Sarge
quote:
"ISIS called for acts of violence against Americans beginning last week"
"Mateen pledged loyalty to ISIS as he was firing his weapon"
"ISIS has claimed responsibility for the actions of Mateen"
So you are saying without Isis and radical Islam, Mateen still goes to Pulse and slaughters 50 people in the name of Allah? Really?
Nope, that's not what I'm saying at all.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:01 pm to Kentucker
quote:
Well, he did see those two guys kissing in Miami. So there's that.
So they're to blame, according to his father at least. Let's find these 2 and beat the shite out of them.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:32 pm to Old Sarge
Quit hating, ole man.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:52 pm to sjmabry
I absolutely hate anyone that murders 50 human beings and something is wrong with you if you don't 
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:25 pm to Old Sarge
Homegrown terrorism doesn't mean the person can't be sympathetic to an extraterritorial cause. It just means the person is a citizen who commits violence against the people of the person's home state.
AFAIK, there is no proof that Mateen was in contact with ISIS or any other terrorist organization. For now, it seems prudent to label it homegrown. Not sure why this is such an issue for conservatives.
AFAIK, there is no proof that Mateen was in contact with ISIS or any other terrorist organization. For now, it seems prudent to label it homegrown. Not sure why this is such an issue for conservatives.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:43 pm to WheelRoute
It's pretty clear this was homegrown. This isn't just about Isis. There is hate all over the world, and right now it's painfully obvious that the Islamic faith is waging war on everyone else. Obama is far too PC with this shite, with his unwillingness to call a spade a spade. But I do believe he is right in that this is a homegrown terrorist. You don't have to live in the Middle East to become and Islamic radicalist.
Dark times and I believe this will continue. I have 2 friends in SF and both believe there is another attack coming this summer. I believe they know who a lot of these guys are that are on US soil, which makes it even fricking worse.
I'm a registered democrat and will be the first to admit that POTUS' speech came across as cowardly. We need someone to stand up and say enough is enough. You shouldn't have to live on fear anywhere in the world, but especially in America. We spend far too much money on defense.
Dark times and I believe this will continue. I have 2 friends in SF and both believe there is another attack coming this summer. I believe they know who a lot of these guys are that are on US soil, which makes it even fricking worse.
I'm a registered democrat and will be the first to admit that POTUS' speech came across as cowardly. We need someone to stand up and say enough is enough. You shouldn't have to live on fear anywhere in the world, but especially in America. We spend far too much money on defense.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:46 pm to JesusQuintana
Correct. But the common denominator is ISLAM. It's obvious at this point. Yes, Christians persecuted millions in the Crusades. But currently the largest terrorist threat in all of the world are radical Islamists. It's just time.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:50 pm to cas4t
Let the jury note that cas4t is ready to MAGA.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:52 pm to 3nOut
I will not vote for the con artist who started Trump U. Not happening. I don't trust him nor Hillary. I'm waiting to see who else is on the ticket. I refuse to vote for someone who scammed hundreds of thousands from poor people.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:17 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:
So they're to blame, according to his father at least. Let's find these 2 and beat the shite out of them.
I really wasn't being flip with my comment. News reports today have detailed his hatred for many groups including gays, women, Jews and African-Americans.
He had made threats against African-Americans to a fellow worker. That same worker made complaints to management because of Mateen's attitude and then quit when Mateen stalked him because of his complaints.
He had researched other gay nightclubs in Orlando before he chose Pulse. He had also engaged gay people online in Orlando.
Apparently his hate for gay people ran deep and the "kiss in Miami" may very well have triggered his rage beyond his ability to contain it. Any contact he might have had with ISIS is still unknown.
I'm sure he had researched ISIS but there's no evidence that they had any direct control over his actions. Maybe he thought he was getting a "2-fer" by killing gay people and crediting ISIS.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:39 pm to Kentucker
You forget that the FBI interviewed him twice in the past because he claimed to coworkers he was a member of al qaeda and said he was going to blow up infidels?
Then when interviewed he said he was just making it all up......
Fast forward and he kills 50 infidels
Then when interviewed he said he was just making it all up......
Fast forward and he kills 50 infidels
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:42 pm to WheelRoute
You need help with some definitions
Here:
Violent Radicalization - the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.[8]
Homegrown Terrorism - the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.[8]
Ideologically Based Violence - the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs.[8]
Here:
Violent Radicalization - the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.[8]
Homegrown Terrorism - the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.[8]
Ideologically Based Violence - the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs.[8]
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:44 pm to Old Sarge
Not a whole lot that can be done about all this shite.
Bottom line.
Bottom line.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:53 pm to TT9
Oh there's a solution alright, but you're not gonna like it.
And stop RAing me
And stop RAing me
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:56 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Haven't RA's shite, and we could deport the clowns and it still wouldn't matter.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:56 pm to Old Sarge
quote:
You need help with some definitions
Uh, the Orlando shooting fits quite cleanly under the definition of homegrown terrorism you just posted.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:04 pm to WheelRoute
Wrong, this clearly falls under the first
Homegrown terrorism by definition is done in an effort to affect and change our US laws and politics.
He clearly states that on many occasions that his purpose is to further Isis's and radical islams objectives
He didn't scream out "marriage should be between a man and a woman" Or "overturn roe vs wade"
Homegrown terrorism by definition is done in an effort to affect and change our US laws and politics.
He clearly states that on many occasions that his purpose is to further Isis's and radical islams objectives
He didn't scream out "marriage should be between a man and a woman" Or "overturn roe vs wade"
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:38 pm to Old Sarge
Fox News crowd has to be torn on this. They hate both gay's and Muslim's.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:40 pm to TT9
Milo isn't the least bit torn. Bet he scares the shite out of you
Page 2 of 7
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News