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re: Kurt Cobain sucked male appendages
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:29 pm to VagueMessage
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:29 pm to VagueMessage
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Far and away his best talent was songwriting,
Meh. The best thing he did was record other people's songs during that Unplugged session. His talent was singing/screeching.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:33 pm to Alahunter
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Kurt Cobain
Was never a fan. Couldn't stand Nirvana. Have an upvote.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:54 pm to Mr.Sinister
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Nirvana was first to usher in the mainstream grunge era but that does not make them the best.
But that counts for a helluva lot. Nevermind has sold something like 30 million copies. When it was released, there was nothing from that genre that had sold more than maybe a few 100k. The average American had never listened to what would become known as "grunge" or alternative rock. That album changed music forever.
They were a knock-off of the Pixies and a few other bands. But even the Beatles were a knock-off of Buddy Holly when they first started making music. Paul McCartney even says "Love Me Do" was them just aping Buddy Holly & the Crickets. They even took their name from BH &tC.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:59 pm to Alahunter
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Cornell, Weiland.. hell, even his frickin drummer, Grohl was better.
Holy living shite.
Weiland was great in the same way that Scott Stapp was great, if you're going to start counting dudes who tried-hard/ specialized in Eddie Vedder karaoke. Jeez....
Grohl has a good screamy voice. He was also an amazing drummer for Nirvana. I know it is fashionable to hate on Nirvana because of their commercial success. At the time they came out and topped the charts, there was nothing else like them. They changed what was "mainstream" in a way that almost no bands have in the history of rock music.
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Posted on 7/18/16 at 10:30 pm to Numberwang
I don't discount the fact that they changed the landscape of music. Nirvana single handedly killed off big hair 80's music. Def Leppard became dead leppard etc etc.. From that aspect is where they get my respect but purely from a music perspective they were very simplified.
Did I jam out to Nirvana? sure did
I just preferred some of the other "grunge" era bands
Wasn't a Pearl Jam fan either but still respect the fact that they too were part of a new era in music.
Did I jam out to Nirvana? sure did
I just preferred some of the other "grunge" era bands
Wasn't a Pearl Jam fan either but still respect the fact that they too were part of a new era in music.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 11:31 pm to Numberwang
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Weiland was great in the same way that Scott Stapp was great, if you're going to start counting dudes who tried-hard/ specialized in Eddie Vedder karaoke. Jeez..
What the hell? Weiland in his prime was one of the best frontmen in the business.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:37 am to cardboardboxer
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Meh. The best thing he did was record other people's songs during that Unplugged session. His talent was singing/screeching.
Sure, his cover of a Bowie song was the best thing he ever did. That and usher in a change in the musical landscape that would affect the next 20 years of rock music. But whose counting?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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What the hell? Weiland in his prime was one of the best frontmen in the business.
This guy gets it. I know Weiland sounded like an even mix of Staley and Vedder - which is still impressive, IMO - but his stage presence was amazing. And he was a pretty good songwriter on top of that.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:39 am to JacketFan77
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I love how the hipster crowd had adopted this "it's cool to hate on Kurt" bullshite. You know what Cobain's greatest contribution was? His humility. He recognized the luck of Nirvana's being adopted by the mainstream and used that platform to promote other lesser-known groups like the Meat Puppets, The Frogs, and others.
Get over yourself.
Holy fricking jesus in a tux tshirt, this. Next OP will enlighten us with the profound revelation that Zeppelin ripped off some melodies and therefore they suck. OP probably listens to Bon Jovi on vinyl because it's ironic.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:This. STP was phenomenonal. Wish Scott's solo albums had been better though.
What the hell? Weiland in his prime was one of the best frontmen in the business.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:19 am to VagueMessage
STP is hands down the greatest live show I've ever seen -
EDIT: actually, tied for first with RATM + Wu Tang in '97 - that shite was from another dimension.
EDIT: actually, tied for first with RATM + Wu Tang in '97 - that shite was from another dimension.
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:22 am to JacketFan77
I saw Rage in '98, but it was Gang Starr that opened. Nashville.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:30 am to UKWildcats
You're right! It was 97! Getting old
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:25 pm to UKWildcats
That dude seriously snapped. It seemed like after the second record he wanted to be Bowie more than he wanted to be in a grunge band, and dressed and wrote his music accordingly. I get the impression he was damn near impossible to work with.
In all honesty, he should have just quit being in bands after the mid '90s and focused entirely on his solo career, because his personality didn't appear to allow him to work with other people in a "we're all equals" sort of capacity.
In all honesty, he should have just quit being in bands after the mid '90s and focused entirely on his solo career, because his personality didn't appear to allow him to work with other people in a "we're all equals" sort of capacity.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:31 pm to Alahunter
He was something different at the time. That being said, I didn't care for his/their music and still don't. I'm not knocking anyone who's a fan; just my opinion.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 3:12 pm to Alahunter
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and really didn't hold a candle to a lot of other singers to come out of the grunge era. Agree or disagree?
I'd agree that he didn't hold a candle to Paul Westerberg.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 3:49 pm to StreamsOfWhiskey
The Replacements predate the grunge era by quite a bit. They especially predate when grunge became mainstream. They actually released their seven albums, made their impact, and then broke up before Nirvana even hit the radio.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:57 pm to UKWildcats
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I saw Rage in '98, but it was Gang Starr that opened. Nashville.
Saw this same show but in Atlanta.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 3:04 am to Alahunter
Posted on 7/20/16 at 2:14 pm to CowTownReb
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Temple of the Dog — the Seattle supergroup featuring Soundgarden’s Chris Cornell, Pearl Jam’s Jeff Ament, Stone Gossard, and Mike McCready, and drummer Matt Cameron (who plays drums with both Soundgarden and Pearl Jam) — has reunited and will tour for the first time ever since forming in 1990. The band will play five cities, Philadelphia, New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Seattle, in November.
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