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re: Is Southern Culture Dying?

Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:20 pm to
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There are certain aspects of Southern culture I wish would die such as the prevalence of many forms of prejudice and much of the ignorance


This dominates every region of the nation. "Tolerance" is limited to certain ideals relative to an ideology.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:42 pm to
Depends on what you mean about southern culture. We are losing rural culture but that's a pretty universal thing. What I mean by that is less of us are raised knowing how to work around granny or another relatives farm. Many of us never broke beans or shucked corn and thankfully working the tobacco fields (nasty work) is over for most. Some of us with connections to the more rural areas were exposed to these things but many of us weren't. Either way outside of the really rural places canning, farming, etc. is dying.

That said, I went to a political event in a rural county last night that made me feel like I stepped into a movie. They had a live band (a good one too), all the candidates, food everywhere, kids running around the park with balloons and watermelon in their hands - it was so painfully southern it was unreal.

I don't know about the rest of the South but in East, TN the differences between the rural counties, the somewhat rural counties (places that have more city/population), and the non rural counties are huge but then again there's always been a difference between these various forms of southern culture. We've just grown to idealize rural culture, imo.
Posted by Czar Castick
Wentzville, MO
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Having lived in Missouri before, there is a distinct difference between most everything south of St. Louis and rest of the state.


You're right. Everything north of that line works, pays taxes and contributes to the welfare state to the south.
Well I really do appreciate all your support. I haven't been receiving any of those checks recently however so do you think maybe you could just send them to me directly? I do appreciate all your hard work and education. It will pay off substantially for us both no doubt.
Posted by JustinBieberFan
Missouri
Member since May 2014
899 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:55 pm to
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so painfully southern it was unreal


Sounds like a good time! I would have loved to have been there.
Posted by tungi01
Dallas, Texas
Member since May 2012
1590 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:56 pm to


Nope, it's alive and well around Auburn and Missippi(Ole Miss)!!
Posted by JustinBieberFan
Missouri
Member since May 2014
899 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:00 pm to
Mizz-SEC
The way you feel about southern Missouri is the same way I feel about northern Missouri

Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:02 pm to
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The special stuff comes in jars hoss
Posted by Nimbus2000
Member since Jun 2013
1250 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:16 pm to
Considering the south was as close to a 3rd world nation as this country ever saw during the reconstruction to the end of the great depression.... I can only see this as a good thing.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:17 pm to
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Sounds like a good time! I would have loved to have been there.


It was but it was almost like I'd stepped into a foreign land too. Everyone knew everyone except for me (lol) so I was kind of lost and of course, I'd never really seen anything like this before. It's odd because I have connections to a few of the old counties and the old ways - I know about breaking beans, shucking corn, canning, weeding gardens, riding horses, (even had to milk a goat once!), and all these other things from summers visiting relatives but that was just a taste of rural life.

I grew up more a less rural area (an in between city and rural with a very diverse population - we did the fun things of rural and city life). But we never had events like that and immersing yourself in that world is a different thing altogether.

I felt like both an insider and outsider at the same time. But it was a great time all the same.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14104 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:17 pm to
Yes, it is slowly dying.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:52 pm to
ALL culture is dying.

Because mainstream.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:54 pm to
And despite the unavoidable mainstream borage that kills all culture, you all have yourselves to blame in part for losing southern culture.

Most of you don't even know or understand your own history.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:03 pm to
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In fairness, the plot of Mississippi Burning is not comparable to race riots, I get your overall point though


Was not meant to be. I was merely pointing out that Hollywood puts out movies continuously portraying the south as racist, bigoted and haters.....in reality, the north was just as guilty. When's the last time you saw a movie about racism in the North? yet, it was prevalent up there, too. Crap, most people have no idea about the race riots in the North. Why? Because most people are illiterate and rely on Hollywood to spoon feed them their "history".
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:05 pm to
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Was not meant to be. I was merely pointing out that Hollywood puts out movies continuously portraying the south as racist, bigoted and haters.....in reality, the north was just as guilty. When's the last time you saw a movie about racism in the North? yet, it was prevalent up there, too. Crap, most people have no idea about the race riots in the North. Why? Because most people are illiterate and rely on Hollywood to spoon feed them their "history".


This can't be stated enough.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:12 pm to
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And despite the unavoidable mainstream borage that kills all culture, you all have yourselves to blame in part for losing southern culture.

Most of you don't even know or understand your own history.





And to a large degree you are right. however, we have been made to be embarrassed by our culture. And certainly, there are aspects of our culture we SHOULD be embarrassed about. but a drawl in our speech, shucking corn, eating grits, cornbread, greens and sittin' on the porch visiting neighbors are NOT things we should be embarrassed about. neither are manners, sipping lemon aid, ice tea or helping out a neighbor in need. Old fashioned values are good values and nothing to be ashamed about.

But you watch TV or movies and Southerners are portrayed and simpletons, racists and....and....and....guess I better get down off my soapbox and shut up!

This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 3:14 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by Nimbus2000
Member since Jun 2013
1250 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:31 pm to
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Because mainstream.



Am I the only one who doesn't view mainstream as an inherently bad thing?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:34 pm to
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Am I the only one who doesn't view mainstream as an inherently bad thing?




Probably not, most embrace its destruction of the 'real'.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12277 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:51 pm to
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Depends on what you mean about southern culture. We are losing rural culture but that's a pretty universal thing. What I mean by that is less of us are raised knowing how to work around granny or another relatives farm. Many of us never broke beans or shucked corn and thankfully working the tobacco fields (nasty work) is over for most. Some of us with connections to the more rural areas were exposed to these things but many of us weren't. Either way outside of the really rural places canning, farming, etc. is dying. That said, I went to a political event in a rural county last night that made me feel like I stepped into a movie. They had a live band (a good one too), all the candidates, food everywhere, kids running around the park with balloons and watermelon in their hands - it was so painfully southern it was unreal. I don't know about the rest of the South but in East, TN the differences between the rural counties, the somewhat rural counties (places that have more city/population), and the non rural counties are huge but then again there's always been a difference between these various forms of southern culture. We've just grown to idealize rural culture, imo.


This post really sums it up. I guess I was really speaking about rural culture. I went into the local, family owned, Ace hardware the other day and was like, this is the way it's supposed to be. It wasn't a giant warehouse, it was a store. The grandma working the counter. Then I was listening to Bill Monroe last night and thought, will my kids kids know about this music or the people that made it? Will they know the peace of sitting on a porch swing stringing beans? Will they know what it's like to make music on that same porch? I don't think so.
Posted by PacoPicopiedra
1 Ft. Above Sea Level
Member since Apr 2012
1153 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 4:59 pm to
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Many of us never broke beans or shucked corn and thankfully working the tobacco fields (nasty work) is over for most. Some of us with connections to the more rural areas were exposed to these things but many of us weren't. Either way outside of the really rural places canning, farming, etc. is dying.


Funny you mention working the tobacco fields. My wife was born and raised in Alcoa, TN and her family had a farm in Seymour. When I first visited the area with her 20 years ago her family's farmhouse (they had a tobacco farm which she worked as a little girl and still, to this day, talks about with disdain) was surrounded by mostly fields and a few houses built by her relatives. Now it's surrounded by subdivisions. Lots of changes in that particular area in a relatively short period.
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